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I havn't seen it yet, but I want to.


I really want to see this movie. Somebody tell me if it is better than "Martin" or "The Crazies". Or is "Knightriders" too different to compare to the other two?


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I haven't seen either of those.

Knightriders is GREAT, if you give it a chance. It has a real indie-low budget feel. And the story and structure unfold slowly, but its great.

The movie takes you in slowly, with a 'show' which sets up the rest of the movie. The rivalries, conflicts with 'townie' authorities, the a behind the scene look at a 'travellign act'.

The real question, set up in the very beginning, is 'how much of the 'show' is 'real' to the characters.

And the jousting on motorcylces is cool.

I don't think it's a movie for everyone, but it really is a rare treasure.

the DVD is great - too bad the audio is mono, but the movie wasn't filmed in stereo - that's the kind of budget it had. I don't remember it even being in the theaters, I found it, liek a lot of people, playing almost endlessly on pay tc in the 80's - usually Cinemax.

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Thanks a bunch, Darth 23-3.

I like to think I appreciate slow movies. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

If you are a fan of George Romero, than "Martin" and "The Crazies" are worth checking out. Both could be considered slow.

But slow don't mean bad.

Anyone else?


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Okay, here goes:

I saw this first late on a Sunday night on Cinemax. I was a senior in college, drinking my way out of a hangover, and my teams had all lost that weekend. I knew Ed Harris from "The Right Stuff", one of my favorite movies.

It is an incredible movie. Looking at it now, it's dated (people "slapping five", some of the "lingo", clothing, etc.). It can move a little slow, at times, but I never find myself saying, "Okay, fast-forward past this."

The struggles within "the troupe", between characters, couples and within each character are interesting, intriguing, funny and heart-breaking. And what takes place is very "real", in that you could very easily visualize this "in real life."

The scenery is great, and the settings (county fairs, cheap motels, not-quite-big-time photography studios, "wannabe" opulence at a promoter's residence) fit so well with the story and situations within it.

Several warnings:
1) Keep an open mind; just because it "seems" dated, it is STILL "relevant", much like a "Billy Jack", "First Blood" or any "Vietnam-vet-returns-home-disillusioned" movie is today, 30 years after the Vietnam War.
2) What can seem like self-absorbed whining and triviality by the characters WILL make sense after a bit. A scene may appear "cheesy", taken by itself, but wrapped together, those same cheesy scenes tell a great story.
3) The ending is both tragedy and triumph, but it is NOT a "cop-out-so-everybody-wins-just-like-Hillary-Clinton-wants" ending. The tragedy of the main character's death is met with the realization that he WAS right all along...think "Poseidon Adventure" ("The beautiful son of a bitch was right") done ten times better...and that, good or bad, people don't place a value on you, they take you at the value you place on yourself.

So...enjoy!

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Oh boy, I really want to see this now! Your description is incredibly appealing, quinnum.


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So hurry up and see it! I want to read your reaction/impressions.

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I wish I could hurry, I'd have to go two towns over to begin to look for it. Rest assured though, when I do I'll come back and drop comments.


Giddy-up, goat!

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i just watched it - even being a big romero fan, i have to say that this is one of the ten strangest films i have ever seen. whoever said they'd finance this took a long hit off a crack pipe and then said, "sure, why not?"

i did like it, though; don't get me wrong.

i love that in the first 9:30 of the film, 6 actors from DAWN OF THE DEAD appear, plus stephen king in a four-shot/line cameo. it is a tad slow (11 minute final cycle fight, which is pretty much the same as the previous two or three?!), but like everyone else said, i never got bored. i never had the urge to bail or hit the dreaded FF.

like much in romero's catalogue, much of the drama in this little movie is Heavy Handed (caps intended!). i never felt truly emotionally connected to anyone, probably because there were too many 'big' acting moments that were too over the top. (i never expected i'd see two full-blown ed harris tantrums, or harris - and SAVINI for god's sake! - bursting into tears at different points in the film). plus, the whole promoter thing was a joke. i was also annoyed by the photographer character, who obviously didn't know anything about cameras or photography in general!

as usual with GR, though, i'd watch it again tomorrow.


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to those who have not seen THE CRAZIES or MARTIN, get them and see them in that order. THE CRAZIES is not all that great, but definitely worth seeing. MARTIN is one of my favorite films of the 70s (along with DAWN). man, george was hot that year.










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almost forgot:

i really dig the extra at the second ren-fair who is wearing the red t-shirt. i want to make a website in his honor. he's in three shots - the first two he completely steals with gratuitous extra overacting! hilarious!



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This movie's sort of a guilty pleasure for me; one of the first DVD's I ordered, and I watch it at least once or twice a year. I guess it has resonance for anybody, like me, who's in the SCA (medievalish reenactment group). If you get the Anchor Bay DVD, the commentary track is really interesting. Tom Savini, George Romero and Christine Romero (they got married right after the movie wrapped) reminisce; they're clearly like a family, and have very fond memories of making the movie. Romero says that he wanted to express the basic theme of choosing between being true to one's art and philosophy, or selling out in a way that will get you more money at the loss of creative control -- in other words, why he's still a relatively low-budget independent movie-maker.

This was also Ed Harris's second movie, and showed the intensity that he's known for.

I really like the opening, which looks like it might be set in the Middle Ages, up to the point where he revs up that big bike and pulls out. (But I gotta say, if I were the local Sheriff, I never would have signed a permit for that show; just too dangerous to the spectators, as we see later in the movie.)

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Yeah, I wanted to know about this movie since I haven't seen it... thanks to you people who decided to give stuff away. Please post spoiler tags next time. :(

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Hey Tunnelkeeper....I know it's been a long time since you posted. Have you found the movie yet? I suggest ordering it from amazon or something. If you're a fan of Romero's movies, this is a must buy. George said this is his favorite of his films and I can see why. Excellent movie.

"Don't let me die with that silly look in my eyes."

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Hi there people.

I just wanted to drop you a line after reading that some people here haven't seen this film.

I'm a big Romero fan, and Knightriders was one of the last Romero films I was able to grab a hold of. I first saw this movie when I was about 14 or so, and 9 years later I still love it.


Its my second favourite film, next to Dawn of the Dead. Everything about this film is perfect for me, its an almost anti-capitilist movie that tells the heartbreaking story of a man trying to live his dream of an Arthurian legend. The cinematography is simply superb, there's great stunts and the music provided by Donald Rubinstein is amazing.

but what really sets this film apart from the rest is Romero's excellent scrpt. Ed Harris falls into the role perfectly, delivering an excellent performance. Savini almost steals the show though, he really pulls through in this movie and his character Morgan comes to life in every scene. The pace of the movie is slow, but this is mainly because it isn't an action movie, its anoter social commentary from Romero that details the stark reality of what its like to lose control of your belief systems when society puts unsummountable pressure on the human soul. Its a movie about following destiny and realising one's true hopes and dreams...romero puts this message across so eloquently, that it really is one of the most under rated movies of this time. There's no two ways about it, everyone in this movie is perfect, even John Amplas who doesn't actually have a single line!

Go see this movie, seriously...I'd take it far enough to say that Knightriders changed my outlook on life, it took a while, but even at 14 years old I shed a tear for King william at the end...its excellently done and I think should have gotten MUCH more coverage...a true masterpiece of film making.

Trev

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I saw this movie when I was 15 years old, I was zapping through the tv channels when I found this movie it wasn't right at the beggining but it got my attention right away. I believe I can notice a Masterpiece when I see one, cause when I saw Dr.Strangelove for the first time I said "This gotta be the most well elaborated movie that man has ever made" and it really was a masterpiece!

Knightriders is a true relic a fine masterpiece, it's not a movie for everyone, one must be absorved to realize how deep this movie really is, it gets through you like no other movie has got in, I never saw this movie again since I was 15 about 4 years ago.

I will never forget that part when Billy is told that what he wants is just a dream, a fanstasy and he replys "What have we being doing? Living that dream" (can't be certain about the sentence). The whole fantasy that Billy was living in is fantastic, the ending of the movie is one of the most touching parts of the movie, the image of the motorcycle then the image of the knight riding his horse connects perfectly...the completion of a Dream!!

I loved it and I bet I still love it when I see that movie again!

Moral of the movie: We give up a few things chasing a Dream...

I bet this movie got me into motorcycles even without me realing that, Live to Ride, Ride to live!

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Just saw the movie last night. Amazing. Wonderful. Noticed that guy, too. He really had what it takes to become a true legend of being extra.

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Yep, that red-shirt extra started the Eric Roberts School of OverPlaying before there WAS such a school! ("Chaaaaaa-lie!...Dey took my THUMB!!!!")

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hehe. glad ya liked it.. it is definitely very different. the heart and soul of the piece and the originality... that is why i treasure it.

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This is definatly my favorite movie ever. I first saw it when it was in the theater for about a week. I was semi active in the SCA and my girlfriend had just dumped me, so I really related to some of the stuff in the movie. I really loved the change in Tom Savini's Morgan, it was a true Epiphany. As others have noted, some of it is a bit hokey, the armor sucks, and the fighting is very unrealistic, but I still love it.

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I had Romero sign my DVD booklet at a Wonderfest a few years ago. Everyone else had one of the "Dead" movies and I think I was about the only one with a Knightriders. Got to hang with him a bit later and asked him what he thought his best film was and he said that he liked Knightriders. He thought of it as his favorite.

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