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How was the film originally promoted at the time it was released?


OK, we're having a debate on another forum regarding Heavy Metal. Apparently, at the time that movie came out, Ronnie James Dio (who was at the time the lead singer of Black Sabbath) said that the film was very different from what was pitched to the band and how it was being promoted. Apparently, according to Dio at the time, the film was being promoted as a "heavy metal extravaganza" as if to suggest it was going to be about heavy metal music.

Now, I was only about 8 years old at the time, but I'm not sure if I buy that. The biggest publicity I remember seeing was in the pages of Starlog magazine. They had a short piece when talk of a Heavy Metal movie first started. Then, right before the film came out, they had a much bigger article, detailing all the headaches that went into getting the film off the ground, with stills from the picture, and even a sidebar piece on the movie.

The one and only other piece of publicity I remember besides that was an ad that I think I must have seen on MTV, and I think I might have only seen it once or twice. My recollection is that it was a bunch of rapid fire bits of animation strung together (though it might have been just Zeke and Edsel's plutonium nyborg hallucination, as I distinctly remember the ad included that shot of the Enterprise we see in that bit of the movie). It ended with a shot of the same artwork that's on the soundtrack album cover, the movie logo and the MPAA rating (and probably there was also the "blink and you miss it" credits they used to show in movie ads back then).

So, my question is, does anyone remember any promotional materials that might lead a heavy metal fan into being "snookered" into thinking they were going to be seeing a film about heavy metal bands?

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I was 14 when it came out, and I remember no such ads. Everything I saw clearly linked it with Heavy Metal magazine, and though it's certainly possible that some bands were given something different I must point out that Blue Oyster Cult wrote several songs which directly referenced the animation (including "Vengeance: The Pact", a scene-by-scene description of the Taarna story which appeared on their Fire of Unknown Origin album). If Blue Oyster Cult was shown a copy of the unscored film in order to inspire them, I'm sure the other bands were as well.


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I was 11 when the film was released and my dad took me to the theater to see it. He was cool like that and we always went to the more cutting edge movies like Heavy Metal, American Pop, The Road Warrior, Stripes and other awesome flicks from around '81. We had seen Where The Buffalo Roam the year before, so we were always looking for the crazy stuff cuz it was usually better than the mainstream bullshxit. Heavy Metal definitely was in Starlog magazine, which I had a subscription to in the early 1980's. I had a few issues of Heavy Metal Magazine as well, so that also was a big push for the movie. I know the film was on my father's radar as well, at least from newspaper ads in the movie section of the L.A. Times during its release. I seem to remember a trailer for Heavy Metal when we saw Stripes (Stripes was released in June of that year and HM came to theaters that August 1981). The same guys were behind both Stripes and HM as far as Reitman, Ramis, John Candy and a bunch of others so that makes sense. It was by no means a big ad campaign, but it was enough advertising to pull in anyone who was into alternative, cutting edge type flicks at that time. The bands included on the film's soundtrack were listed right there in the newspaper ads so it was understood that some type of Rock or Metal would be driving at least part of the experience. I didn't even know who these bands were at the time, but I do now. You simply could not ignore the print ads listing "music by..." because the names were so funny. Felder, Fagen, Grand Funk, Blue Oyster and all that. To a little kid, it just seemed funny at the time. Music was changing quickly and the new wave was taking over a bit. Hard rock was not as much on the radar for an 11 year old at that time when Blondie, Benatar, Journey, 38 Special, Greg Kihn Band, Missing Persons, and The Go-Go's were scoring radio hits in '81. And yes, Journey is on the Heavy Metal soundtrack but still...

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The only thing I remember about the promotion of the movie is the trailer that appears on the DVD. I think it is also on YouTube.

Who knows what the artists were presented with. I can't imagine they were told it would be a documentary.

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from what i recall, it was always touted as "adult animation" inspired by heavy metal magazine with a heavy metal soundtrack. alas, i foolishly trashed my collection of heavy metal mags but i believe at least one of the bits in the film had already seen print in the magazine (the "den" segment).

it's a bit humorous now remembering what "heavy metal" music meant back then - don felder (of the eagles)? blue oyster cult? journey? devo????

heavy metal 2...now that was just a travesty.

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<<from what i recall, it was always touted as "adult animation" inspired by heavy metal magazine with a heavy metal soundtrack. alas, i foolishly trashed my collection of heavy metal mags but i believe at least one of the bits in the film had already seen print in the magazine (the "den" segment).

it's a bit humorous now remembering what "heavy metal" music meant back then - don felder (of the eagles)? blue oyster cult? journey? devo???? >>

From what I can gather from what I've read on the other forum, that's whole crux of the biscuit. Other than Blue Öyster Cult, none of the people you named were ever considered "heavy metal" or even "hard rock". Neither were Stevie Nicks, Donald Fagen, or Cheap Trick. Cheap Trick and Journey both occasionally had songs bordered on hard rock, but they were never associated with that genre.

Of course, you probably wouldn't know that Blue Öyster Cult are a hard rock band if Veteran Of The Psychic Wars was the only clue you had. But if you knew songs like The Red And The Black, Cities On Flame, ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence), or Golden Age Of Leather, you'd know that at least in theory, they had more of a place in a film called Heavy Metal than, say Stevie Nicks. Of course, BÖC were more diverse than a lot of hard rock bands, doing ballads and stuff that almost sound like folk rock music.

Apparently, s what upset Ronnie James Dio and at least some of the metalheads who saw the movie at he time, was they weren't expecting a movie with an orchestral score, nor were they expecting songs from the likes of Donald Fagen, Stevie Nicks or Devo. They were expecting full blown hard rock and metal through the entire movie.

Of course, as others have said, the movie poster listed the artists whose songs were in the film. I guess if you didn't know who Stevie Nicks or Donald Fagen was (and I can imagine a lot of metalheads not knowing the names of the people from Steely Dan or Fleetwood Mac), you might not know have enough a clue to know the film wasn't going to have more than just metal in it.

For what it's worth, I've never had a problem with this movie. It's always been one of my favorites, and I've always been happy with the choice of music. Well, I could live without the Stevie Nicks song (I can't stand her, especially after finding out how she got to be in Fleetwood Mac in the first place), but thankfully in the movie itself, you only hear about 15 seconds of the song.

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I was 12 when it came out, and I remember seeing commercials for it on TV. One of the things they did was say "Featuring the music of..." and rattling off a list of bands. They definitely mentioned Devo, they might have even made them the last one the list, because they were still extremely hot on the radio at the time, with Whip It. So anyone who had the slightest clue about music should have known it wasn't going to be a showcase for heavy metal music. I'm betting Dio just didn't pay any attention at the time and made a bad assumption.

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Starlog had a feature article, with other snippets occassionally (especially since it took a while to animate the film). There were theatrical trailers and tv commercials, and heavy Metal magazine promoted the heck out of it. Other than that, not much. It was advertised a lot for the midnight movie circuit, which was mostly newspaper ads for theaters that did those showings, alongside things like Pink Floyd's "The Wall," and Flesh Gordon. Same with other adult animation, like American Pop.

You couldn't have seen it promoted on MTV, because it didn't exist yet. Maybe something after the fact, but not when the movie was in release.

To the rest of the world, it was cartoon porn, which was the reputation of the magazine, to the mainstream. Sad thing is, it's more like that now as compared to then.

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<<Starlog had a feature article, >>

Yeah, I remember the Starlog article, actually I remember they had a couple different pieces on the movie over the course of the film's production. One, I think when the film was first announced, named the stories that were at that point going to be part of the film, and if I remember correctly, one or two were cited that didn't actually appear in the finished film.

The big feature piece I remember when the movie was released mentioned that there were a couple sequences that were done using rotoscoping. At the time, I didn't know what that meant, and it drove me crazy trying to find out (I was 8 years old at the time, with no internet, and no clues to WHO to ask what rotoscoping was). Years later, I saw a documentary about animation where they explained rotoscoping, but it was still wasn't until the advent of the DVD player that I found how it was used in Heavy Metal.

I also remember there being a sidebar piece on the music, which mentioned that the Don Felder song Heavy Metal (Takin' A Ride) was originally intended for a sequence that got cut from the film originally, and at press time, they were still looking for a place to use the song in the film (curiously they didn't mention Felder's other song in the film, All Of You). I also remember them hyping the fact that Grand Funk Railroad ("one of the originators of heavy metal music" or something like that) had reformed and would have a song in the film.

<<You couldn't have seen it promoted on MTV, because it didn't exist yet.>>

According to Wikipedia, the movie was released on August 7, 1981. MTV first went on the air on August 31, 1981. So unless the movie only played in theaters for a couple weeks, it's possible MTV could have run promos for it.

Although now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure we didn't get cable TV until summer of 82, so I couldn't have seen the TV spot on MTV or any other cable channel. I HAD to have seen it free TV! In 1981, Cleveland had a whopping seven broadcast channels, with the three network affiliates (plus the Akron ABC channel), PBS, and two local channels, 43 and 61. So it had to be one of those that I remember seeing it on.

And I'm sure I actually saw a TV spot, because up until then, I had no idea what the movie's rating was going to be (I was 8 years old, what did I know about Heavy Metal magazine?) so I was disappointed to find out it was rated R. I also distinctly remember they used at least a bit of Zeke and Edsel's "trip", because I remember seeing the bit where the Enterprise flies by.

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MTV debuted in 81, but had little cable penetration until 82 (when my hometown got cable, with the network) and didn't really become a big thing until 83. The film wasn't in theaters very long, at that point. I suppose it's possible that early MTV may have done a piece about it, but I kind of doubt it.

I was on a family trip in Boston when I first saw a theater was playing it, but didn't get to go. I didn't see it until I was in college, at a campus movie, sometime in 85 or 86.

The Starlog pieces used then-current titles, so B-17 was known as Gremlins and it mistakenly named the alien ship in So Beautiful, So Dangerous as Grimaldi, or else I just misconstued things. I remember the article talking about comic book artists Neal Adams, Howard Chaykin, Bernie Wrightson, and Mike Ploog, but it took a while before I traced their contributions. Adams did a bit on So Beautiful, So Dangerous; and, of course, B-17 is Ploog. Chaykin designed some characters for Taarna (the band playing in the saloon). Captain Stern was Wrightson's brainchild.

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<< it mistakenly named the alien ship in So Beautiful, So Dangerous as Grimaldi, or else I just misconstued things.>>

No, you're right about that. I remember they actually showed a picture of Zeke and Edsel's ship hovering over the Pentagon, and identified that as Grimaldi, the orb that links the stories together. So there were actually two errors there (Grimaldi is the name of the astronaut in the Corvette at the beginning). I believe they also identified Harry Canyon's voice as being done by John Candy (first time I ever remember hearing or seeing his name, actually).

But I'm sure the first article they ran when the movie was first announced, had titles that don't even match up to the "working titles" for the stories in the finished movie. I think maybe they may have had trouble nailing the rights to use the stories they originally chose from the magazine, and had to swap in a couple others instead.

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<<MTV debuted in 81, but had little cable penetration until 82 (when my hometown got cable, with the network) and didn't really become a big thing until 83. The film wasn't in theaters very long, at that point. I suppose it's possible that early MTV may have done a piece about it, but I kind of doubt it. >>

I didn't say "MTV did a piece on it", I said MTV ran ads for the movie, which seems likely as I'm sure they took ad space from Columbia Pictures just like anyone else who has need to run TV ads, and showing ads on MTV for a movie with a rock music soundtrack would seem to be a no brainer to me.

At any rate, as I said, it would have had to have been broadcast TV that I saw such ads, as we didn't have cable TV at the time Heavy Metal came out.

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I remember seeing a promotion for it when I went to see The Empire Strikes Back. Does anybody else remember that?

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