I don't get it


Great film, no doubt about it but I just don't get the ending.
Amos Slade didn't want to shoot Tod anymore, Copper didn't hate Toy anymore for hurting Chief....so why didn't they get reunited?

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My thoughts are that they all just felt that enough was enough. They had all been through so much and Tod had helped them against the bear attack that their hearts just weren't into hurting each other any more. As for Tod and Copper, they had both grown up and moved on.

Love this film so much!


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Nope, still doesn't make any sense to me. Does anyone have another view on this?

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Tod had started a new life with Vixey, so he couldn't just leave her. She'd grown up the forest, and likely would've hated domestication. Foxes are meant to be wild, and Tod came to understand that himself, after being released in to the game preserve (remember him saying, "I've never been happier"?)
And Copper was meant to be a hound; a born hunter. Foxes are on his list of game, and as a good hound that's loyal to his master, he knows he should keep a distance from Tod. You see, he just doesn't want to disobey Amos, /or/ betray Tod.
Both characters have matured and learned their place in the world, and sadly their places aren't together. Though they continue to be the best of friends - from afar =]

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The one thing I really didn't like about this movie was during the chase scene where Vixie becomes the damsel in distress, despite being WAY more experienced in being a wild, hunted fox than Todd.

Though as a kid, it was fun to watch Todd be the hero, so I guess there's my answer.

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I just always found it weird that Todd actually saved Copper from the bear even after Copper tried to kill him.

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That's kinda the whole point of the film, though. Friendship.

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I think the answer is in the female fox, Vixie. I think Tod would've gone back, because of Copper to repair their friendship more, and because of the Widow, but because he had Vixie and enjoyed the forest, plus he had other animal friends now, so he didn't want to leave.

Vixie was a bigger pull for Tod (plus the forest, Big Mama, etc.) than Copper, the Widow, and darn Amos and Chief (even if Amos and Chief were friends now; there would still be some awkwardness and bitterness, I think).




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*Amos Slade didn't want to shoot Tod anymore, Copper didn't hate Toy anymore for hurting Chief....so why didn't they get reunited?*

Because Tod's still a fox and Copper's still a hound (and Amos still a hunter). It's just the way things are. That's the whole point. It's not about Vixie having "more pull" than the other characters. Tod is what he is, and Cooper is what he is. Nothing can change that. They can always share their childhood memories, and they can appreciate how their childhood friendship and promise to always be friends was strong enough to motivate them to stand up for each other at the moment of truth (which is remarkable enough in itself), but at the end of the day, but at the end of the day, it's not in the cards for them to maintain a truly close friendship. That's just how life is sometimes. Some things just aren't meant to be.

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I think Traianus got it right on the money. Tod is a fox and meant to live in the wild with his girl. Copper is a hound and meant to serve his master who is a hunter. Even though they still care for each other and will no longer be the hunted or the huntee they can't co-exist in the same area.

I remember being a child and watching this and thinking that it sucks that they couldn't play together anymore but I still understood that they will always be friends. Forever. Yeah, forever.

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The ending worked best for everybody. Tod becomes the fox he should be and matures and goes to live in the forest with Trixie safe in the preserve. Cooper has proven himself a hunting dog, but retains his friendship with Tod even though they aren't physically together anymore. Tweed and Slade can form some kind of relationship now that the hostility is gone. Tod and Copper had to go in different directions, but that's how life is sometimes.

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Don't compare the book and the movie they are 2 entirely different stories that just happen to have the same title and names for the main characters. Tod and Copper may not have seen each other again, but they were still friends, same with Tod and Tweed. Their goodbyes weren't the end as long as they had their memories of each other to comfort them. They formed newer relationships. Tod and Vixie a romance, Copper and Chief as a father-son relationship, and Tweed and Slade as a new friendship between humans.

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Haven't read the book. As a kid when I first watched this movie, I grew up to understand that life can be tough and that's the way things are, the world is a bad place, yet there is something good and worthwhile to be cherished such as friendship. It's a good life lesson.

As I grew up and watched this again, I just figured the hunter was bitter twisted old man dragging everything into the mud.

Throughout the whole movie the hunter(s) had been the instigator of all the misery. They killed Todd's mother. The hunter hunted Todd to no end. The ending made sense. If the hunter had killed Todd, he would've also killed Copper. Then he would be a miserable old fool with only a crippled dog as his campanion. No doubt he could probably adopt a new puppy, but that animal would probably outlive him.

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Why the hell would amos wanna kill copper? Copper wasnt game. He was a good hunting dog and he has a purpose. Amos wouldnt wanna shoot a perfectly good hunting dog.

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