It's her own fault


That woman going on about how she doesn't have any privacy, there's always four other people around letting her know that she doesn't belong...well that's her own fault for getting involved with a man old enough to be her daddy, stuff like that happens.

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Well, she was in love with him and so she rolled with the punches.

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Seems she wasn't prepared for so many punches. But you just cannot out of the blue hook up with a guy twice your age who just left his wife after an entire marriage of cheating on her, be screwing him on a 30 foot boat with 4 other people well within listening distance, making enough awful noises that the dead would rise to complain, and expect everybody to just be cool with it or whatever. You do that and you are setting yourself up to be hated and outed and blackballed and you really have no grounds to complain about it because what did you do to help the situation?

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Assuming she was the cause of the divorce.

From all accounts it was the husband who was dissatisfied with his wife's non-adventurous spirit. The fact that Bess Armstrong's character was "more sexy" than Sandy Dennis' character, adds the extra bit of intrigue that a particular kind of woman like to gossip about.

Did the husband really leave the older wife for a younger body? Partially, no doubt, but it wasn't the core issue. It just happened to be a fringe benefit. The "Nick Callan" charcter might as well hooked up with an older richer woman, which would put the same kind of spin on him as you put on his new wife.

People get married for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately some of them are very bad; security, is such a bad reason. If you marry someone for emotional or financial security, then perhaps you're not really in love with them. And if this is the case, then perhaps you shouldn't be getting married in the first place.

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She wasn't the cause of the divorce but what the hell did she do to help everybody else with their discomfort being around her? Does she REALLY think his daughter wants to have a mother her age around, let alone talk to her?

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But what does it matter to any of them? If anything she tried to make people feel at ease. It was everyone else who was uncomfortable.

What business is it of theirs anyway?

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I thought it was worse that she showed up at the Parents' Weekend. What better occasion to stay away?

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Indeed. Let's see, your daughter is the social outcase, she has one friend, she's depressed...so what're you going to do? Oh, introduce her to her new mother who is about her own age. Hmmm, he wants to sleep with a woman who can be his daughter, I wonder what he'd do if his daughter was sleeping with an old geezer though.

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Tell her to join the army. It's the solution to most social problems :-)

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You seem to have a big hangup about differences in ages. I've always felt that we love *who we love*, and that there is something wrong about two adults who love each other being psychologically coerced by their families into saying goodbye. I also think that it's weird and disgraceful for immature kids to be telling their parent whom they disaprove of and shouldn't see. Kids are supposed to obey their parents, not the other way around. I can understand how emotionally disturbing divorce can be on kids. But if the daughter was depressed, maybe she would have felt better if she had taken a more mature attitude, gotten rid of her whiney resentment, gotten a guy of her own, and been happy that her father was happy. This wouldn't mean that she loved her mother any less.

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I disagree, at least to a point. The passive-aggressive 'my friend attempted suicide, and she's a lot like me' line (I forget exactly how it went) was unnecessary, along with that thing she said about how her father 'does things that affect her life, but it doesn't seem to bother him', but I still think it was completely understandable, and small potatoes when compared to Nick's behavior. Her father married her mother because he thought she would be useful to him, and he cheated on his wife throughout the marriage. Then he abruptly dumps Anne and marries a woman who, nice as she is, is essentially taking her mother's place in his life, and who is nearly young enough to be her older sister.

The way I see it, Lisa is about 19, and so is considered an adult. As such, she is allowed to voice her opinions, whether they're right or not. She is allowed to resent her father. She is allowed to resent Ginny's presence. Going to college is a huge change, and her father's behavior didn't help. I also noticed that Lisa was at least civil towards Ginny, and only took out her feelings on her father, who (as far as I'm concerned) richly deserved it.

Personally, I liked Ginny. I can understand why it took the rest of the group a little while to warm up to her, but they clearly liked and accepted her in the end, and regretted the way they acted towards her. On the other hand, the loud sex on the boat was...yeah. I wouldn't be too impressed with the two of them after losing more than one night's sleep over it! Other than that and the nude swimming, she was a great character, and it showed. Her husband, on the other hand? Total dirtbag.

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introduce her to her new mother who is about her own age. Hmmm, he wants to sleep with a woman who can be his daughter


Bess Armstrong was born in 1953 and Len Cariou was born in 1939, so he is 14 years old than her. That's really not such a huge difference. She's not young enough to be his daughter, and in her late 20s she is definitely not the same age as his college daughter.



You must be the change you seek in the world. -- Gandhi

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Yes, Ginny seemed very young, but was she? She had a ponytail and a bikini, so that makes her 20 years younger???

If he was 41 that would mean she was 21 when they met, and barely out of her teens.
it is more likely she was nearly 30 and looked very good at that age.
I noticed by Fall she was dressed appropriately and had her hair down and seemed older. She wised up once she got him.

I don't blame him for wanting out. Anne was just inert like he said, and when she got away from him she seemed to wake up. So maybe he was the problem.

Wasn't it funny that Jack and Kate and Claudia and Danny and also Anne and Nick all had only children?

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She was married to him by then. Or at least engaged. You don't marry (or agree to marry) someone and then stay out of their life. He wanted her there, so she came.

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It wasn't Ginny's fault. Nick and Anne weren't right for each other, although I felt sorry for her.

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I don't think the privacy issue has anything to do with age, it was the fact that EVERY vacation was spent with each other. And the ladies in particular were very resentful of her presence even though Beth was very considerate and kind to them.

Nick NEVER loved his wife; should he have stayed with her just for the sake of staying together?

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If Nick 'never loved' her, then why did he marry her to begin with?

My issue with the way the movie presented Nick is that we want to like him as much as the other main characters. Being a philanderer makes him less likable, for the most part. It would have an interesting plot twist to have Nick meet the younger woman, maybe be tempted by her, but then decide to stay with his wife after all. If I had been a studio exec in charge of the making of this movie, that is the change I would have insisted upon.

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Nick mentioned the reason in the movie, he thought by marrying her he would lose some of his wild ways and it would help him grow up. Many people marry for the wrong reasons all the time.

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I would have preferred that ending wylierichardson-966-922691. Nick deciding to stay with his wife, Anne, after having his middle age crisis fling with the younger woman.

I didn't find philanderer Nick likable when I first saw this movie ate 13. And I don't like him any better now.




Don't f@ck with me fellas! This aint my first time at the rodeo.

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Where are y'all getting this huge age difference? When they revealed that Gunny is pregnant, Alda says Nick is starting a family again at 43. In real life, the two actors were only 14 years apart. He was not old enough to be her father.

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