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Stop moaning about QUALITY of blu, + some facts


Yes the blu is hit and miss in quality, esp colour.
BUT they were open and honest about this and IT IS STILL THE BEST IT HAS EVER LOOKED & STILL looks good.
So shut up!

The point we need to moan about is that this is still the 'R' version that's heavily censored on the main kill.
It loses 5 stabs and a LOT of its shock power.
It's uncut on YouTube as 'Carnivore'.

Scream never mentioned they were unable to get an uncut print, they only mentioned quality.
As such I say down to finally see a good (and it IS) quality uncut print.
I was very annoyed it was STILL cut.

But that aside, it's the best ever version (there ever will be probably) of the 'R' cut and is still worth getting for fans.

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They screwed up, like most of their releases . No quailty control, stop being a fanboy.

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i agree

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You're half-right. The source problems are not Shout Factory's fault. Anything that would remotely be considered an "archival" source has long been lost or destroyed. Only 30+ year old exhibition prints in the hands of private collectors remain. The color on these is unstable to say the least, not to mention the dirt and damage.

But that does not excuse what is, by far, Shout's very worst, most incompetent AVC compression job yet. The macroblocks are everywhere, giving this film a sickly digital splotchiness that has little to do with the quality of the film source.

Shout baffles me. The compression, by now, should be the easiest thing to do. Off the shelf encoders (and even freeware ones) will encode artifact-free AVC without ever changing a single default setting. And yet nearly every compression job Shout does looks like it's the first time they've ever made a blu-ray.

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Scream Factory does not do good telecines. That is a given. (At least they didn't have to do color timing on this one, as that's the one area they seem to revel in screwing up.) And I didn't think the 35mm sources they used were all that terrible. It's the best we've ever had on home video, though that may be saying little given what we've had on home video. But the film prints themselves are as good as the picture looked when you saw it on the big screen in 1983 or 1984. The non-inclusion of the "Carnivore" cut, however, was a major lapse in judgment on their part, and the main reason I was miffed. It is rather different from "The Final Terror" cut, not just in terms of being a pre-MPAA version without the 20 seconds of cuts needed for an "R" rating and without the MPAA certificate, not just in terms of the title card, but also in terms of opening credit billing (Rachel Ward and Mark Metcalf are flipped), in terms of one exterior shot, in terms of portions of the closing credits, heck, even in terms of who it is copyrighted to (The Watershed Co., rather than Samuel Z. Arkoff), and thus both cuts should have been included. I've seen Scream attempt to do composites before, too - not that they've ever done it well but they've attempted - so the fact that they didn't in this case, while being candid and upfront about the source material which I didn't have a problem with, simply tells me that they couldn't be bothered to learn that there was another version.

On the bright side, they didn't screw up "Sleepaway Camp," so there's that.


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