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James Earl Jones Shouldve won the Oscar


One of the best actors in his most ambitious role.

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Are you kidding? He was good, but no that good.

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Most of his part was based on seduction, impressions, mysticism, and acting. Not much fighting for a fighting type of movie. He also left a strong impression on the movie even though he wasnt the lead.

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True; also he has very little screen time; and yet makes a huge and memorable impact on the film. Granted, it is hard to go so far as to say he deserved an oscar. Despite I think the Academy is bias against high fantasy films, Conan the Barbarian is an admittedly campy film. It is great and I love it; and think Jones's performance is legendary; but that might be because of my personal preference for this film.

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First of all I think it is one of his most impressive roles where he is actually lead and acting not given Mass Villian Vader who you might even consider given his massive cultural impact and popularity. Secondly though I think Arnold was the perfect Conan you can say he bestest him even in the end where you feel cheated from a fight scene and it is almost impressive, daring, and majestic how he challenged Conan unarmed, without guards, without his followers protecting him or fighting for him. Though Conan was the much stronger guy he had no fear of him and in the end you end you might end up pondering if he even won? Through Thulsa teaching he might’ve surmised him and dying could’ve been part of his plan.

I also say this because this role is so dangerous. It could be a career killer and James I never recalled having another such role. He killed women mercilessly, brain controlled virgin women to their deaths, became a snake, killed followers, had zero regrets, AND PLAYED IT WELL!!!

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I agree with all of this; Thulsa Doom is arguably one of Jones's best performances. It is mesmerizing, memorable and effective. I guess a way of saying it is, if Anthony Hopkins deserved an oscar for the role of Hannibal in Silence of the Lambs, you would think that Jones's performance here would be at least an honorable mention. Especially considering the contenders that year.

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Yea well with the losers getting oscars today and Hannibal winning for less time he shouldve been considered, at least. There have been few very such bad guys and played well. I think it is universally acclaimed and an unexpected surprised. He played a fantasy epic one of the best and most memorable in a theatre presence.

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Depends on what you mean by "not that good". He is only in a few scenes and really steals the show each time. In many of the scenes he is acting enough to not only deliver his own role but really boosts Arnold's delivery too. Also, it is often an unspoken role that high fantasy films never got oscar recognition (LOTR being a rare exception). You can make an argument that is wrong and that all films should be given equal consideration despite the genre.

If you would make an argument that James Earl Jones was not "good" enough in this film to warrant oscar consideration you would have to acknowledge that perhaps it was wrong to consider Anthony Hopkins for Silence of the Lambs. (note I love Hopkins and his role in that film). I think to write off Jones's as not even a possibility as an oscar is a reflection of this bias.

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The serial killer rapist guy cannibal!?

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Cannibal?

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Yes. How did you miss the human body parts in the huge caldrons of stew being cooked in the “paradise” inside of Mount Doom?

Also, to the other poster, there is not a scintilla of camp in this film. Part of its genius is that they played everything straight, including the scene where Conan knocks out the camel. It was funny, but it also demonstrated his strength.

“Camp” is a 60s term for “spoof” or “put-on.”

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It also sometimes means gay, but possibly only/moreso in English slang from the '60s ("Camp" Freddie in The Italian Job).

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I never cared for that.
He was more into the snakes.

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He would've had to beat Jack Nicholson in Terms of Endearment. So, yeah, I'd say he should have gotten a nomination, if not the crown.

Almost everything about this movie is underrated, though. The biggest snub, I think, was the score. The Right Stuff won, and I'm not familiar with that score so I won't comment, but Conan wasn't even nominated and this score is phenomenal. It's right up there with Shore's work on Lord of the Rings, Morricone's stuff, or anything by Elfman or Williams. It's one of the best film scores ever, and it wasn't nominated because the film's perception is that it's "just" an adventure movie about a bodybuilder.

This movie is a testosterone ballet. It's largely physical set pieces set to music - very little dialogue at all.

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I agree with the score which is great and im a huge fan of. I have several different versions but Thulsa was still more impressive since when have we ever seen a snake king that turns into a snake and is so evil yet so seriously played and the ending so unique and strange. The fact that Adrian Brody won one and James wasnt even nominated its pathetic.

There wasnt much dialogue but not much was needed as it was well spoken, to the point, and memorable. Many talk a lot but dont say nothing.

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I agree 100% on this. The Musical score is arguably the best high fantasy scores ever done, and one of the best film scores. Superb in every way; the fact it did not even get a nomination is just a sign the academy; especially back then; had a bias against fantasy films.

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Bias no, was crap! A bunch of great ones didnt even get recognition. Today’s even worst!

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This was not an Oscar "seeking" movie but even it was I don't think James Earl Jones had enough screen time to warrant an Oscar nomination.

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This presence in this film was quite mesmerizing. I enjoyed every bit of his dialogue and I can’t imagine anyone else as Thulsa Doom.

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I haven't seen any of the movies nominated for best supporting actor that year. But Louis Gossett Jr. won the Oscar for best supporting actor for an officer and a gentlemen. Sometimes though films like this do win acting awards. The Untouchables, City Slickers, and The Fugitive all won best supporting actor.

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