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Why Clash Of The Titans Was The End Of An Era


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It was 40 years ago, in June 1981, that Clash of the Titans, the last film to feature the stop-motion animation effects of Ray Harryhausen, was released.

Starring a then-unknown Harry Hamlin, along with veteran stars like Laurence Olivier, Maggie Smith, Burgess Meredith, and Ursula Andress, the film was loosely based on the Greek myth of Perseus (Hamlin), weaving in strands of other mythologies and legends and putting its hero into conflict with creatures like the Kraken, Calibos, Medusa the Gorgon and a two-headed dog named Dioskilos.

“Greek and Roman myths contained characters and fantastic creatures that were ideal for cinematic adventures,” wrote Harryhausen in his memoir, Ray Harryhausen: An Animated Life. “If some of the adventures were combined with 20th century storytelling, a timeless narrative could be constructed that would appeal to both young and old.”

Harryhausen was already a filmmaking legend by the time he began work on Clash of the Titans. Born in Los Angeles on June 29, 1920, a 13-year-old Harryhausen’s life was changed when he saw King Kong for the first time in 1933. Inspired by the groundbreaking stop-motion animation work in that film by Willis O’Brien, Harryhausen began experimenting with his own short films employing the same process.

He got to meet O’Brien at one point, with the visual effects pioneer encouraging the young Harryhausen to keep refining and improving his work. Some years later, after attending USC, doing a stint in the military during World War II and working at his first professional job on George Pal’s Puppetoons, Harryhausen landed a job as O’Brien’s assistant on Mighty Joe Young (1949).

It was on 1953’s The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, the first film on which Harryhausen was in charge of the visual effects, that he created the process known as “Dynamation,” which allowed for greater and more realistic interaction between his stop-motion creatures and live actors.

In 1955, Harryhausen met producer Charles H. Schneer and formed a partnership that would begin with Harryhausen’s next feature, It Came from Beneath the Sea (1955), and last all the way through their final collaboration on Clash of the Titans.

Their run of pictures included fantasy and sci-fi classics such as Earth vs. the Flying Saucers (1956), 20 Million Miles to Earth (1957), The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958), Jason and the Argonauts (1963), One Million Years B.C.(1966), The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1974) and many others.

Unlike many visual effects artists even to this day, Harryhausen had an unusually high degree of creative control over his projects. He didn’t just animate the monsters; he was involved in the conceptual and story development, production design, and many other aspects, acting as a co-producer with Schneer and sometimes as a co-director — an agreement that any director of a Harryhausen film had to abide by.

Harryhausen even received co-producer credit on The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, a title he would also officially obtain on his and Schneer’s next and last two pictures, Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger (1977) and Clash of the Titans. “I felt he deserved it,” Schneer told Starlog magazine (#152) in March 1990. “It was a recognition that Ray contributed more than just the special FX. His input was added from day one.”

Clash of the Titans was an idea that Harryhausen had been kicking around since the late 1950s, with screenwriter Beverley Cross (who wrote the final script for Titans) penning a treatment called Perseus and the Gorgon’s Head in 1969. Although the plans were delayed by the next two Sinbad pictures, work on the project began in earnest as Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger neared completion.

“The original legend of Perseus is complex and convoluted,” wrote Harryhausen in An Animated Life. “So we had to manipulate events, stealing from one legend and putting it in another.” Harryhausen cited the creation of the winged horse Pegasus as one example: in the original story, Pegasus is born from the blood of Medusa’s severed head. But since her death would come near the end of the film, a different scene involving Perseus capturing and training Pegasus was conceived to bring him in earlier.

With a screenplay and production storyboards ready, Schneer presented the film to Columbia Pictures, where he and Harryhausen had a number of successes over the years. But the studio balked at the $15 million budget — more than all Harryhausen and Schneer’s previous films combined — so Schneer next brought it to Orion Pictures.

That company had one request: cast a then obscure but up-and-coming bodybuilder-turned-actor named Arnold Schwarzenegger as Perseus. This time Schneer and Harryhausen balked. “I told them he didn’t fit the part, because it had dialogue,” Schneer told Starlog. “But Orion considered his casting to be a deal breaker.


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This is one of those films that I've known about all of my life but didn't get around to watching until last night. One of the primary reasons I watched it were to check out the Harryhausen effects.

I thought the effects were cool, but they do look dated, and I feel like they seem dated even for 1981. I'm not exactly sure how I'm making that assessment, since I can't think of a lot of other films from that era that even try to show the sorts of creatures that Clash shows, but still I *feel* that way. Nevertheless, they were still cool to watch and to see how fantastic beings were brought to life before the era of CGI.

Next I intend to check out Jason and the Argonauts, which I've seen listed repeatedly at the top of Harryhausen's filmography.

The article you posted says that Orion wanted to cast Arnold as the lead. Seeing Arnold as Perseus in this film would've definitely been interesting and would've given the film a different flavor for sure.

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They were dated for 1981, but had actually only just become so that very same year. This is because in 1981, another movie came out which brought mythological creatures to life on the big screen. That movie was "Dragonslayer." Where "Clash of the Titans" used classic stop motion animation of exactly the same sort that had been used in 1933 to film "King Kong," "Dragonslayer" used a brand new improvement on stop motion, called "go motion." This took the basic idea of stop motion -- animating a physical model of the creature, shooting one frame at a time and moving the model between frames -- and used computer-controlled stepper motors to regulate the movement of the model, instead of doing it purely by hand. The result was much smoother, more realistic animation. Stop motion produces a slightly staccato, mechanical-looking, "uncanny valley" movement quality, whereas go motion looks a lot more realistic. The dragon in "Dragonslayer" still looks quite good on screen today. The effects hold up very well and compare pretty favorably to CGI dragons done in more recent films. "Clash of the Titans," on the other hand, looks dated by comparison, though I still love the movie, and it's vastly superior to the remake.

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Thanks for the info!

I've heard of Go Motion but I didn't know what distinguished it from traditional stop-motion. Specifically what I heard was that, before he was sold on CGI, Spielberg was going to use Go Motion dinos for Jurassic Park. It would be interesting to see how well that would've worked out.

It sounds like I need to go check out Dragonslayer. It seems like a movie I would've watched as a kid, but if I did I have no memory of it.

Regarding the Clash remake, I know that you're not alone in that opinion but I enjoyed the film and thought it was a pretty good sword-and-sandals adventure flick. The sequel sucked, but I liked the first movie.

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"Dragonslayer" is a good movie, and well worth a view. It's not super action packed, so don't go into it expecting that, though it does have a few really good action scenes. I'm not saying that to "cushion the blow." It's truly not primarily a rip-roaring action adventure film, like "Conan the Barbarian," and it wasn't ever meant to be. It was a very intelligent fantasy adventure film, about how human beings cope with something supernatural and awesomely powerful, and how there aren't any easy solutions to such a problem, or ideal outcomes, even when you do ultimately prevail over the threat. Human beings, though they win, only barely eke out a victory over such a titanic threat, and it's not a perfect victory. The acting is superb, the cinematography is gorgeous, the score is great, and the special effects were cutting edge for their time, and still hold up very well. It's a movie with a fantastically great story, and it tells it extremely well in every technical sense.

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A few years ago my nephew was visiting me (he lives in the virgin islands) we watched Dragonslayer, and he was amazed that somehow he never saw it. It is a very intelligent movie for the genera that it is a part of. I am not besmirching any other similarly themed movies from the time, but this one was a bit more thought provoking than it contemporary Sword and Sorcery films.

I knew of Go Motion, but I did not know the technicalities of the processes that went into it. So, thanks for sharing all of that information in a concise manner.

Have you ever read the book? And if so, what did you think of it?

As for the Stop motion that was used in Clash of the Titans, it is visually stunning, and it definitely contains some of Harryhausen's best work, but it was even dated for the time. That doesn't make it any less beautiful to look at, or fun to watch. To be honest the special effects in Clash add to the surreal aspects of the film. The stars are great, and Judi Bowker is stunning, but the stop motion creatures steal the show.

I read the book for Clash of the Titans too. It was good, but not as good as the movie.

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It appears that the Dragonslayer and Clash books were novelizations of the movie. It's interesting that you say you read them. I remember back in the day novelizations were pretty common and relatively popular, but it seems that very few films are novelized these days.

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Yes, in recent years I have gone back and read a lot of the books that were made from movies of my childhood. It's interesting to read about things that were left out of the film, or added in by the writer. I have the novelization of "Escape from New York" and in it the writer actually described what was on the tape that made it so important. That information is left out of the movie, but if you listen to the little bits and pieces of what is played from the tape in the film it is actually the same information that is in the novel. However, without reading about what was on the tape it just sounds like gibberish in the film. As for the Dragonslayer book it was really good. Yes, it's about the slaying of the Dragon, but it's also about how the age of magic was coming to an end, and the age of Christianity was taking its place. This is actually evident in the film too, but I didn't notice it until I read the book. There's also a talking bird it in named Singe. Singe works in the book, but I don't think that it would have worked in the movie. It may have come across as goofy if they had a talking bird throughout the film. So, it's better that he was left out. I read the Clash of the Titans novel so long ago that I don't remember much about it. I'll have to reread it again one of these days. I do remember not thinking much of it though. The Sword and the Sorcerer novel was just plain dreadful!

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That's interesting. I may have to check those out just to see what they're like.

A few years ago I noticed that there were a few novelizations still coming out. It seems that it's mostly sci-fi films that get novelized these days. Specifically I remember Pacific Rim getting a novelization and I think also Man of Steel.

According this article, more recently that Will Smith movie Gemini Man was novelized, along with the Sonic film and that Vin Diesel movie Bloodshot:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ent-novels-from-movies-star-wars-20200330-a3dximjbujhi7pjccspxmnft6u-story.html

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Well upon your recommendation I checked it out tonight.

It was an interesting movie. As you say, it's not really an action film. I also expected a bit more of a questing element to it rather than virtually the whole story taking place around one little village. But the story is interesting and it has a great 80s fantasy atmosphere, some cool sets, some really nice natural landscapes, and some pretty good performances.

The effects were interesting, being a combination of stop-motion for the wide shots, animatronics for the close-ups and some traditional animation. The motion for the dragon was definitely more smooth than old school stop-motion and looked better. However, one thing that was the same is that the dragon, much like the creatures in Clash, never really looked like it was inhabiting the same 3D space as everything else in the frame but rather looked like it was super-imposed on top of it.

I couldn't help but be distracted by that, but don't take that to mean I didn't think the effects were impressive. Overall, they are. Do you know of any other films that used Go Motion?

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You probably watched a HD or DVD quality rendering of the movie. I initially had Dragonslayer on VHS, and it looked amazing. However, once the movie was transferred to DVD, all of the matte lines were glaringly obvious. As a result I never watch the movie in DVD or HD quality. I just watch an old VHS transfer that I made. It's why George Lucas went crazy with his restorations of his original Star Wars Trilogy (although in my opinion he went overboard) So, I do understand what you are saying.

This may seem a bit odd, but I prefer watching films from the 1970s through to the early 2000s in VHS quality. Seeing those movies in clear as day quality really bothers me.

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I watched it on a DVD I checked out from the library. (Yes, I still do that. It reminds me a bit of going to the video stores back in the day.)

Regarding VHS, it's funny you say that. About five years ago I picked up a VCR and started buying movies on VHS and watching them just for the nostalgia factor. It was a fun time and I recommend doing that occasionally for anyone who grew up during the VHS era. Unfortunately the VCR didn't last long and started eating my tapes so now it's not really possible unless I go through the trouble of buying another VCR.

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I go to the library and take out movies for the exact same reason.

You can pick up VCRs really cheap at yard sales. I have more of them than I can count LOL. My VHS tape collection is pretty huge. I actually digitize the tapes onto DVDs and watch them like that.

There are a few VHS stores still left in NY. There's a few in Brooklyn, and about four in NYC, and one upstate New York by my parents cabin. It's called Video Visions. Inside Edition did and entire segment on the place. I'll add the link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7FFMZUywt0

I live on Long Island so I'm not close to any of them. the last VHS store out here closed in 2017.

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You see, I would have no interest at all in watching digitized VHS movies. If I'm going to watch VHS I want the experience of putting the tape in, hearing the VCR hum and whir, and having to rewind the movie after I'm done.

That was an interesting video. I'm glad that dude is able to stay in business. I wonder what his VHS-to-DVD/Blu-Ray rental ratio is.

We have an old single-screen theater here that, at least as of the last time I checked, had a small area in the lobby that had VHS and DVD movies that were available to rent if you were a member. I have no idea if they still do that, but at least as of a few years ago they were. It wasn't really like going to an actual video store, though.

I miss video stores. I don't miss their relatively paltry selections though or the pricing.

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I digitize them so I don't burn out my VCR. I do watch VHS tapes, but not as much as I watch my digitized versions. It's just a safety precaution on my part. I know I could just watch those movies on DVD or some streaming service, but some films simply (to my eye) don't look right in DVD or HD quality.

The next time I am up there I will ask him what his VHS to DVD ratio is. The last time my mother was up there she said that he said people were still renting VHS tapes. He also rents out VHS players for the night if you don't have one.

Oh wow that's REALLY cool. I wish something around here had that. The pandemic killed the last old movie theater around here. It was family run since the 1950s, and they aired Christmas movies for free on Christmas day.

The aforementioned store has a larger selection than Netflix. He owns the entire storefront, and he lives upstairs. Walking in there is like walking into a time machine. The last video store on Long Island (where I live) closed in 2017. It was called 111 video. It had a comparable selection to the store in the video. They closed very suddenly almost out of nowhere. They simply posted on their Facebook page that they were closing in a week, and that was it. It sucks, but maybe video stores will make a comeback. Drive in movies, and record shops did.

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I'd have to think that a lot of those films you've digitized--I would actually assume most--are in 4:3 and are pan-and-scan. I would only want to deal with that if I were actually watching a tape and getting the whole throwback experience.

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I don't know anything about ratios in film, but you are probably correct. There's a bit more to my digitizing films than I've explained here. I actually do it to preserve film history. I have thousands of hours preserved to DVD of actual televised film footage dating back to the mid 1970s. I have restored entire weeks to months of programming. I am very channel specific. So, I'll restore a weeks worth of CBS on a DVD, a weeks worth of ABC, a weeks worth of HBO etcetera. It can be very time consuming, but the finished product is like watching a window into the past. I only use VHS footage, and it has to be from the same time period (week/month) and all of the shows usually contain all of the original commercials.

I digitize VHS movie tapes to preserve the films, and their trailers, and coming attractions to preserve the history of film. All that stuff is going to be lost once the tapes start to wear away.

So, that's my reasoning behind the digitizing of VHS tapes. Some people think it's cool when I tell them what I do- others think I'm strange.

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"This may seem a bit odd, but I prefer watching films from the 1970s through to the early 2000s in VHS quality. Seeing those movies in clear as day quality really bothers me."

They were all originally shown in movie theaters (except for direct-to-video and made-for-TV movies of course), and 35mm theatrical film prints are marginally higher quality than Blu-ray (the resolution is about the same but a film print's colors are better than Blu-ray's 4:2:0 chroma subsampling scheme), and drastically higher quality than DVD.

I love watching old movies on Blu-ray. I watch them on a 1080p projector and a 100" screen from 10' away, and they look amazing (assuming they did a good job transferring the film to digital video; some movies have way better transfers than others), very much like how I remember them looking in theaters.

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"Dragonslayer" took the "Jaws" route by not fully showing the beast until well into the second hour of the film. Prior to that moment the film builds up a heap of horrific anticipation concerning the creature. The first virgin sacrifice scene is particularly terrifying. When we finally DO see the monster it's not a let down. Despite the film's age, it has to be one of better dragons in cinema.

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Just finished the movie. You can see my reply to Darren above for additional thoughts, but I did think the effects were pretty good.

I agree about the virgin sacrifice scene. For a film that presumably was aimed at kids, there are a number of things in it that were darker, or more mature, than expected.

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The reason for the darker tone is that it was made during Disney's "Dark Era". Disney had trouble finding itself during the later 1970s to the mid 1980s. They simply didn't know how to compete with movies like Star Wars, Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark etcetera... So, they started putting out films that were much darker in tone than what had come before. The more well known movies from that time period were Something Wicked this Way Comes, The Black Hole, Tron, The Black Caldron, Midnight Madness (not horror, but definitely teen comedy) A Watcher in the Woods, Popeye (again not horror, but more of an adult comedy that kids could watch) Night Crossing, Return To Oz (one of the creepiest kids movies that I have ever seen). It wasn't until around 1986 when they released The Great Mouse Detective, and Flight of the Navigator that they seemed to have found their footing again. Then by 1989 with the releases of The Little Mermaid and Honey I Shrunk the Kids they were back on track. Although, personally I wasn't interested in anything that they released after Flight of the Navigator. I prefer the "Dark Era" to anything that came after.

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Thanks for the info.

Of the films you mentioned, I saw Tron and The Black Caldron, and I may have seen The Black Hole and Popeye, and maybe also Return to Oz, but it's been so long for all of them that the only one I remember anything about is Tron.

Looking at the financial returns for Dragonslayer and The Black Cauldron, it seems that the Disney name during this time wasn't a guarantee of box office success. Not sure how well the rest of those films did.

Sadly, however, I feel that today Disney is in its worst spot yet. Maybe not in terms of finances, but in terms of their output. And I feel they may have lost their footing in a way that they will never recover from.

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None of the films from the dark era did very well. I actually really enjoy it though. Many of the movies I listed are clunky in places, but they do have a lot of atmosphere, and there is a definite "dark" vibe that they all have. Out of all of them Something Wicked this way Comes is probably the best one, mostly because Ray Bradbury wrote the screen play adaption from his own book (I've read the book, and there are some aspects of the movie that I prefer over the book). The Black Hole starts out really good, but then it goes to hell- both figurative and literally-no joke-lol. The sets, and special effects are really quite good for the time. The amazing thing about that film is they were in the era of Star Wars, and they used 1960s special effects technology to make it. It was the swan song for those types of effects. I should say that even though the film is a mess, it REALLY feels like they are on a HUGE space ship. Tron was slow and tedious, even as a young kid I found it to be dull, but it does look like what it would have been like to be in a video game in 1982.

Disney is at a horrible place right now. The only thing that can save them is to either sell the entire thing or to fire just about everyone that works there, and hire fresh new blood. Unfortunately, I don't think either will ever happen. It's sad.

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I'm glad to see that we are on the same page with modern-era Disney. In my view they've allowed politics and strange social stances to ruin everything.

Every once in a while they will produce that feels like old school Disney--they made a movie called Togo a couple of years ago for Disney+ that was quite good--but for every step forward they take, they take ten steps back. And every time they create something that starts well, they inevitably destroy it through poor decision-making (see: The Mandalorian).

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I agree.

I don't know of Togo, but I will look out for it. My nephew (we are very close in age) has Disney Plus for his kids so I will ask him about it.

Ugh, what they did to the Mandalorian was so disappointing. After that great ending to season two they go and render the entire two seasons pointless by making the child go back to the Mandalorian! And they proceeded to make Luke look like a freaking tool again. I'm done with Disney's Star wars. I stopped watching Boba Fett after episode 3. It was terrible. I'm glad I don't pay for that channel. Like I said my nephew has it. So, I saw what I saw because I was around him and his kids. I read later on (online) that the Kid went back to Mando... Way to ruin two series all at once. It's too bad, because the Mandalorian was the first thing that Disney did that actually felt like Star Wars and not some crappy fan fiction.

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Dragonslayer’s Dragon is easily my favorite dragon ever in a movie.

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I agree. It's probably the best looking dragon (from a design standpoint) that I've ever seen.

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I've got the old Cinefex articles on the making of it but I haven't read them in years. However, I'm pretty sure that in addition to "go motion" they used a little bit of stop motion in Dragonslayer. They also used hand puppets. Basically, the reason Dragonslayer works (well the effects anyway) is that they went for maximum realism and used whatever technique was best for any given shot.

Harryhausen always felt bad about using any alternative to stop motion, like the man-in-a-suit Minaton or even the actor portraying Calibos.

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My understanding is that go motion is a form of stop-motion, so I don't think we should think of them as two different things. It's like Stop-Motion 2.0.

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I suppose that it is essentially the same but the use of computer manipulated rod-puppets, tends to automate the actual process and makes it pretty distinct from hands-on stop motion.

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This thread epitomizes what movie chat threads should be about. Just good conversation about what went into making a film.

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