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I always felt sorry for Susan


she was stood up by Arthur and Linda came in front of her bridesmaids

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The whole thing smelled of an arranged marriage which he objected too. She also had no self-respect. He calls her an a-hole to her face over dinner and she just smiles. All she is interested in is money and social climbing. Arthur wasn't about that, he was about love and passion.

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I actually felt sorry for Arthur. Susan was never going to be cut-off if she hadn't wanted to marry him and it was obvious he couldn't stand her, yet she still clung on.

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She pushed and pushed him into despite knowing he was not in love with her. Hard to feel sorry at that point.

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Wow, some of you guys just missed what Susan was about. She wasn't about social status or money; she really did love Arthur despite his drinking and womanizing.

But I also don't feel sorry for her either, as Arthur was simply not a real good match for her, and didn't love her. If Susan were real, she would have no trouble finding a good man to love and love her back.


Just once, I'd like someone to call me sir without adding 'you're making a scene' ~H Simpson

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Don't agree on the really loved him. Even if not precisely set out in the movie, I think it was an arranged marriage.....the joining of two empires.

They go out of their way to make clear that Susan's Dad clawed his way up. Pretty clear the Bachs were old money. I think Susan was just with the game plan, while Arthur was not.

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Even Arthur quotes her as "the only innocent person in all this". He didn't love her, it wasn't her fault or anything. She should have seen this.
Fair enough on the innocent part. At the same time was she really in love with Arthur or just following the orders from above (her father)? Not clear in the movie, but what is is that she had her mind set on what she wanted to do.

Seems how much you feel for her depends on which scenario.

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I felt worse for Perry.



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Fair point. In the remake felt sorry for Kate Perry for being married to the new Arthur too. :)

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Heheheheheheheh... I so agree.

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I actually felt sorry for her too. That’s one of the things I love about this film. Here you have Arthur, a “millionaire drunk playboy”… and he’s likable. Susan is an uptight, spoiled trust-funder… and you feel sorry for her. I think in less capable hands, this would’ve been a very different movie.

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Susan in this film is relativly okay and somewhat likeable. She was an average looking rich girl, which was rare for movies. She claims to be all for Arthur and is all about being with him, hence the whole "I cry for you" moment, and I think she felt something for him in some way, but overall she didn't love him either. When the marriage moment came up she was quick to dump him. She was innocent in a way and kind of not as well, but she is oddly likeable.

The remake's version of Susan screwed this up. They turned her into a hottie but she was conniving and outlandish. She was just a bitty and nothing remotely likeable (even if I like J Garner.)

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Susan is rich. Plus, with Linda dating Arthur, that leaves Harold available for Susan. Plus, Susan is an a-hole.

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The whole situation was a bit messed up. I think the "arrange" marriage with Susan would've been fine. He would've carried on like a playboy womanizer drunk. She prob would've slipped into pain killers. Eventually they'd be a disaster. But still be together. With Linda, something was always fishy about that. 1) Linda didn't really bring much to the plate. A dad who saw Arthur as a lottery ticket. A crass NY sense of humor with no ambition to match his own (she wanted to be an actress?). It was as meandering as the hooker in the opening of the movie. He would've died of cirhossis faster with Linda than Susan, as he could not function without booze.

Having watched it recently again, most people would've chosen Susan (which is why it doesn't play in the remake). We're a different society. Harder more cynical. The idea of romantic love over practical means is an outdated concept. For the time...a wonderful fairy tale. Nowadays, laughable.

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The idea of romantic love over practical means is an outdated concept
Seems the idea of an arranged marriage is a very old fashioned concept. Or maybe you are saying that the world has come full circle. I'd disagree with that though.

But perhaps I'm just clinging to that concept since I found romantic love and am quite pleased with the outcome. Hope your way worked out better for you.

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I felt sorry for her too. She really did love Arthur. She wasn't very bright but she seemed to have a good heart. It's an uncomfortable scene for me when she comforts Linda (who, frankly, grated on me), believing the lie Linda told her while Linda and Arthur played her for a fool. She was spoiled, but the drunken Arthur was far more intolerable than Susan ever thought of being. The "Susan, you're such an *beep* line was just off-putting to me.
Arthur and Linda are both *beep* who deserve each other.

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