A Truly Great Film


When I first started collecting DVD's. This was the first DVD I bought. Now that should tell you what kind of film this is. It is a nearly perfect film. GREAT music. Golden Globe nominated performance. (Sharkey), A story that everyone can get into, because who wouldn't want to be plucked from obscurity and become an overnight sensation! The Idolmaker gives you performances from, at the time, unknown talents like Olympia Dukakis, Joe Patialano, Peter Gallagher. Even Marcia Brady is in it!! Taylor Hackford, of Officer and a Gentleman and Ray fame, directs this terrific, small film and it truly is a giant of its time. The most under-appreciated film I know.

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Yes, "The Idolmaker" is indeed a very fine movie. I too consider it to be quite underrated. Ray Sharkey in the titular role is absolutely perfect. And the supporting cast is likewise superb. I personally give it a 9 out of 10 and have submitted a really favorable review of it which I'm sure will be posted.

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I will back up juror12's DVD story w/ my own DVD story : I don't buy ANY DVDs. None. Between TiVo, Netflix, and cable, I watch so many films that I just don't find it necessary to actually own movies on DVD. However, I bought The Idolmaker on DVD. This is an awesome movie ! Great performances, great music, and of course, a great story. I still can't figure out how this movie has managed to be so unknown ever since its release. Was it just not promoted at all ? Was it not properly distributed to the theaters ? There has to be SOME reason that tons of people didn't hear about this movie, because it is truly awesome ! Every person whom I have introduced to it over the years have had the same reaction after seeing it. They usually ask "Where has this movie been all this time ?"

Ray Sharkey's performance is the type of performance that would normally get labelled as a "career-defining" performance. He truly IS Vincent Vacarri in this movie. He just brings so much charisma & energy to the role ! It makes you only wonder what could have been had Sharkey stayed w/ us longer. As stated in previous posts, everyone in the movie holds their own, and then some. Olympia Dukakis brings so much to her role as Vincent's mother. Peter Gallagher's music performances are amazing. Paul Land (who ?) is GREAT as Tommy Dee. Joe Pantoliano is perfect as the reliable friend/partner.

And then the music. Oh man, the music is GREAT ! The thing that I especially loved was how the music kinda EVOLVED throughout the movie. You have to pay attention to notice it, but it gives a great little snapshot of how rock music evolved in that short period of time btwn '59 - '62. It goes from cutesy pop songs ("Here Is My Love" ; "Sweet Little Lover") to love anthems ("Baby") to power ballads ("However Dark The Night").

That's the really great thing about this movie : It's actually a really acurate in that it portrays that short post-Elvis/pre-Beatles period in rock music. It's not just a story which is thrown into any time period. There's actually a lot going on here in this movie which is VERY true for that particular time period. The music for the manufactured idols of that time started out w/ cute little pop songs & ended up w/ huge power ballads also.

I could go on forever about this movie. But if you haven't seen it the best thing I could say to you is to find the DVD & watch it ! It's not a very easy DVD to find. You may be forced to buy it. But I FULLY recommend purchasing it. As I said earlier, I don't buy ANY DVDs & I didn't hesitate to get this in my possesion.

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Kudos on a spot on review. This film has always been on my list of classics that include, almost exclusively, the biggest films in cinema, and when I throw this one in, almost everyone says "Huh? What film is that?" An almost perfect film. Sharkey's portrayal is Hollywood tragic when you watch it retrospectively knowing his descent into heroin and cocaine hell soon after this film was made. Few actors have ever nailed a role better. That scene of him in the wings watching Dee perform "Here is my Love" for a bunch of Junior High students, going through all the moves, the whole thing looking a little awkward and geeky, is classic. It is in perfect contrast to his coolness and meglomania in the wings, casually lighting a cigarette, during the thunderous applause after Ceasare brings down the house in Memphis. This performance is the stuff of film legend. And then that scene after the Memphis triumph, when he confronts Ceasare with the knowledge that all of his success is because of his guidence, his crafting (" Every note you sing is me...EVERY MOVE YOU MAKE IS ME...EVERY THING YOU DO IS ME GODDAMN IT....EVEN THAT FACE..."). You are absolutely right about the Academy. They dropped the ball big time in not nominating him for this performance.

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thanks for the kind words cknob. It's always great to hear from others who know this movie well enough to quote it ! :-)

amazing movie

I can't help but think that somebody screwed up majorly w/ the promotion of this movie. It must have been something to do w/ the movie studio who put it out or something, because NOBODY knows this movie. Also, promotion is the type of thing that gets actors nominated - and if a movie studio doesn't promote the movie itself, then an actor in the movie will certainly be overlooked when it comes time for the Oscars.

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No problem. I don't have an issue with this film being a "secret gem" that I pull out for friends every few years or so.

I forgot to mention the incredible music. The "American Bandstand" scene where Tommy takes over the stage and audience gives me chills when I think of it. When "Sweet Little Lover" begins and the scene is being shot in the television control room, we hear a canned, flat, AM radio sounding version of the song and see a black and white monitor image of Tommy's head. Then the camera cuts to a full, offstage shot of Tommys gyrating body at the microphone, in full color and full pulsating sound as the song revs up to the first lyrics. Wow!!! It's like a Rocky Balboa moment with music!

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I saw this film in the theatre when it first came out in 1980. It is one of the most overlooked, under rated films ever produced. I felt that way after I first saw it and still feel that way today. Tragically, the film should have made Ray Sharkey a box office star. If it had, maybe he would still be with us, today. The world robbed him of his chance and robbed us from ever seeing him perform again. This alone, makes owning the DVD a true treasure, but if you would like another reason...Taylor Hackford's commentary on Ray Sharkey. Maybe someday this film will get the notice it deserves.

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I THINK YOU SUMMED IT UP JUST RIGHT.SHARKEY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST EARNED AN OSCAR NOMINATION FOR HIS ROLE IN THIS.EVEN PETER GALLAGHER DESERVED ONE ALSO.

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I can't believe how much love this movie has been getting on this board. It truly is well appreciated though and deserved. I'm guessing more and more people have been turned onto Taylor Hackford's work after Ray. Kudos America. This along with Blood In Blood Out are among his best works. I have loved this movie since I first saw it.

I have just recently downloaded Here Is My Love, Baby, and However Dark the Night and can be heard driving around playing them waaay too loud. I even love mimicking that redneck that yells "awwright Elvis". This movie ranks among the best about the music industry along with The Five Heartbeats, That Thing you Do, and Grace of My Heart.


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WOW!...I'm not alone.I've read all the post and felt the need to express my self on this film.THE IDOLMAKER IS ONE OF THE GREAT AND MOST UNDERRATED FILMS EVER!!!!!!!It's the core message that I really love.You have to take chances or you'll never know.Vinnie was living through Tommy Dee and Caesare until the end when he found his own voice.Mynamesdignan, you have excellent taste in film your posted list mirrors my own.Sadly Ray Sharkey never got the kudos he definitely earned for this film,while I love his Sonny Steelgrave I really feel this character was his best work.Idolmaker is what young performers should aspire to :intense,natural and engaging a movie that leaves a lasting positive impression.

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Add me to the list of those who ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS FILM. I own the DVD and watch it often, although hardly anyone I know of has seen it, let alone expresses any interest in seeing it. Shame, because it truly is one of the greatest movies. Ray Sharkey was wonderful, and brought so much to this film.

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Alright all,
It's this simple, if you know of this film- you LOVE it!! My magic moment is when Chez comes back on stage to do 'Baby' after the maniacal girls rip his shirt to shreds. What a powerful live performance!! I was in HS when it was released (I missed it in theatres). I saw it on cable shortly afterwards though and was immediately spellbound. For weeks I practiced my running slide across the stage grabbing the mike and singing to the hundreds of screaming girls in my head. Whenever I see Peter G in a movie, in my mind he's always Caesare. I'm watching it right now on TMC. RIP Ray.

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Not trying to date myself too badly with this, but this movie was one of the first movies I had ever seen on canle TV. This was in the late 1970's when cable and movie channels were first available in my area, and I was lucky enough to catch this movie. To this day it remains one of my favorites, and I had bought the VHS and the DVD as soon as it was available. I do lend this one out to friends who all rave about it, and no one know what I am talking about when I mention the name.

I had expected to see Peter Gallagher and Paul Land following this movie, I thought they gave excellent performances. This is a lost gem that people are lucky to find. One of my all time favs and definitely on my list of movies to take if I am on a desert island. "Quarter notes, Caesare, quarter notes!!!"

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Saw the movie for the first time today...great movie...my only complaint was that the music was completely forgettable.

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No way was it forgettable.

This movie kicks all kinds of ass!

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No almost about it. The Idolmaker is a wonderful film.

I'm just a little concerned with the overuse of the word kudos in this thread.

less is more :)

Onto the film.
Not much more I can add really.

The songs are catchy, the story is amazingly touching and the cyclic / redemptive nature of the ending is sublime. I shed tears most everytime I watch the end. Stark contrast to the first image of him pulling up his sock.

But be careful wishing for this film to garner a greater audience.

This usually entertains a Hollywood remake and we only narrowly missed on a contemporary rap remake.

Phew...while that lasts.

Ps - I cut the trailer on youtube - years ago with a couple vhs players.
Also made the wiki page (proud of that)

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I feel so much better after reading this thread. I got totally sucked into this movie when I accidentally caught the opening credits on THIS-TV. As I kept watching and watching and watching I started to wonder, "Is this movie actually that good or am I that easy to please!!" After reading all these glowing posts I see I can still trust my taste in movies.

I'm bummed that THIS-TV was having some kind of tecnical difficulty and I lost the visual for about 10 minutes, then they switched to their other digital feed so it was suddenly a newscast. I gave up but then turned back later and it was finally back on but I know I missed at least a 15-20 chunk showing Tommy D's rise to fame.

Guess I'll have to rent/buy it.

Winners don't even know they are in a race. They just love to run.

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I concur. More people need to know about the greatness of this film.

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It's criminal that this film doesn't even have a widescreen DVD, much less a Blu-ray disc available. It does air in anamorphic widescreen HD on the MGM HD Channel from time to time though... better than nothing. I think Showtime HD also broadcast it about 5 years ago. It's a great film and should be seen in its original aspect ratio and with 5.1 surround sound.

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I remember liking this movie when it first came out in 1980 and finally got to see it last night (DVRed it off the MGM Movie Channel) for the first time since then and it was as good as I remembered it. In regards to what's already been said, I mostly agree although I will hedge my praise a little more than most. Cast is competent, but let's face it, it's Ray Sharkey's performance that drives this film and moves it beyond forgettable. The music is fine and while I get that they incorporated an 80's feel into early 60's-era music to make it sound a bit more timely for movie-goers at that time (did a nice job with this btw), ironically, it makes the music sound sort of dated now. I wish they would have just stayed more true to the sounds of the time depicted and that way like with the wardrobe, cars and setting, it would never really appear dated in future viewings because it invokes a particular time and place. I also thought the music sequences lasted a little too long and kind of dragged things down a bit in spots. I get maybe showing one full performance, but it seems that there were 3 or 4 full-blown sequences when perhaps a 30-45 second segment would have sufficed. Oh well, a minor quibble, still enjoyed the heck out of it.

As for Sharkey, as someone mentioned earlier, he probably should have become a bigger star based on this breakout role and his overall talent, but he pretty much sabotaged his own career with his substance abuse problems that swelled right after this star-making turn. Sad that he could never really shake those demons, but luckily we'll always have Vinnie Vacarri and Sonny Steelgrave to fondly look back on.

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