Hated it


I hated this movie. I saw it in theatres back in the 80’s and I could not believe what I was seeing.
It’s so racist. I has sooo many stereotypes in it I honestly can’t see how anyone can like this.
You had the black guy who couldn’t read, you had the big, fat black girl who was a buffoon
Then you had the black guy (who couldn’t read and was obviously gay) falling for the rich white blond girl. And right out of central casting you had the gay guy, the Jewish
girl, the list goes on and on. This was pure utter garbage to me.

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But bear in mind that the students were from various backgrounds and income brackets.

I really don't think it was racist or anti-Semitic.

I find the Jewish mother and daughter rather funny. And I'm Jewish myself.

Marry me,Bob Gunton!

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Central casting had a gay guy in 1979?

Black people can't be gay?
Effeminate people can't be straight?

Teens don't embrace any group stereotype they can, just to belong to something?

You have no idea what you're talking about. It's no wonder you didn't like it.

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Growing up in NYC at that time was like that, so the movie was a very accurate reflection of the times. On top of that, it showed how everyone could co-mingle and also do their own thing and respect each other, most of the time. I think it was beautiful and realistic.

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Please. It was far from realistic - wasn't attempting to be. I also grew up in NYC at that time and don't get what you're talking about.

I enjoyed Fame and didn't react at all like the OP. But he has a point about the cliched characters. The neurotic Jewish girl with the obnoxious stage mother; the gentle, lonely, ever-the-victim gay boy (happily that stereotype is way outdated), the talented but angry and illiterate black from Harlem; the musical Italian and his opera-buffa cab driver father; the insensitive-because-he's-just-insecure Hispanic stand-up.

If there was a plot, I didn't see it. The series of vignettes never added up to anything. Characters, like the failed dance student, appeared, then disappeared without a trace. Incredibly amateurish writing - perhaps by committee.

What I did find offensive was the treatment of the LeRoy character. A student who verbally abuses his teacher and goes on a rampage destroying school property - and we're supposed to feel sorrow for him? That's the worst kind of patronizing liberal racism: enabling anti-social behavior; claiming violent, even criminal acts that would get anyone else expelled or in juvie is ok for the disadvantaged black kid; that society should expect poor blacks to have low standards and act like that. Not acceptable.

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If you have no sympathy for people (of any race or color or sexuality) that grow up completely disenfranchised and who have little to no options, then there is not a lot I can say to you. All I can say is that it is understandable to many people how a person could end up like him, that is not excusing the behavior, it is understand the behavior and the root of where it comes from. We can have sympathy for the person regardless of for unappealing their actions are, not because of their actions.

Let me say it one more time for the people who need to hear it twice. The ACTION of the person is not ok, the reason for the action is understandable though, in the same shoes you might act the same way. You would still be wrong, but people would have an understanding where the root of your actions come from.

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Are you sure you're in America? Come on man. We grew up here too and it's not a Third World country…

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I am sure I grew up in both America and New York City.

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The actor who played LeRoy, Gene Anthony Ray, ironically had attended the HS of the Performing Arts school but was expelled for bad behavior. A few of the kids were slow academically, but none were illiterate. Bruno I think is based on Drew Francis, a teenaged jazz prodigy who excelled at synthesizers. No one at PA idolized Freddie Prinze. My English teacher said Freddie was a smart Alec in his class and didn't do well at the school. There was a lot about the movie that was realistic and some that wasn't. We had music in the lunch rooms but never danced on cars or held up traffic. I love the movie, though--attending PA was a sweet part of my childhood.

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it is theatrical not a docu.

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All stereotypes are founded in reality.

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You had the black guy who couldn’t read, you had the big, fat black girl who was a buffoon
Then you had the black guy (who couldn’t read and was obviously gay) falling for the rich white blond girl.

Isn't that the same guy?

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