This is my favorite, they really created fantastic worlds: The ice planet Hoth, inside the Asteroid, The Swamp Planet Dagobah, The FREAKING FLOATING CLOUD CITY Bespin,
It was all very linear, they went from place to place and had an unforgettable adventure in each one of them. I didn't ever buy into the worlds in ROTJ and the newer movies are terrible.
Why couldn't they keep making great Star Wars movies like Empire Strikes Back?
They do , you just dont see it , in the new ones there was a gambling den , that cafe run by the not-yoda-funny eyes-lady, Luke's little island , Millenium Falcon scrapyard . I'm sure theres more , especially in Solo & Rogue one , but i havent seen them enough times to memorise
also "inside the asteroid is scraping" the barrel of cool inventive locations.
"inside the asteroid" was INVENTED here, dummy. it's not scraping anything, it's the first time you see a location that looks dull and safe and boring turn into something unique and unexpected IN MOVIE HISTORY.
In 1980 that was new, fresh, genius.
After everybody else copied it in the past 40 years, no shit it's "scraping the barrel".
"inside the asteroid" was INVENTED here, dummy. it's not scraping anything, it's the first time you see a location that looks dull and safe and boring turn into something unique and unexpectedIN MOVIE HISTORY."
YOU MUST HAVE MISSED THE AFRICAN QUEEN,THE TOWERING INFERNO,2001,PLANET OF THE APES,WESTWORLD AND ABOUT A THOUSAND OTHER FILMS MADE BEFORE 1980.
" it's the first time you see a location that looks dull and safe and boring turn into something unique and unexpected IN MOVIE HISTORY."
seriously?
yes, seriously. Show me some example before it if you know better.
sharewell , heres one from 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnOdAT6H94s
see also:
The Posieden adventure
The Cassandra crossing
Rollercoaster
Dual
numerous airport films
etc
You're not getting what the op and me meant with this.
The asteroid cave is a moment in the adventure that is memorable and becomes special because of how awesome it is, although it's not consequential to the main adventure. It's just great storytelling in a self contained sequence, like the opening of Riders of the Lost Ark.
More importantly, it starts off as something you'd think it's a break in the action, like a moment to relax away from the empire, untill you realize it's not the safe heaven you believed but it's something out of scale that is more dangerous than the tie fighters.
I'm not great at explaining it but to go into a cave with little monsters that attack your ship, and see it as a nuisance that needs to be tackled but won't be that bad, only to figure out halfway that you are inside a giant worm, and you have to make a last second escape with the monster jaw closing on you and your ship and your crew....where the hell have you seen it in any of those movies?
"Riders of the Lost Ark."
I'd like to see that, a cowboy riding the Ark of the Covenant going YEEHAW and waving his hat around.
big f'in deal. Riders, yea, you herd me rait my frend.
and reading your creative description alone tells us how unimportant english spelling truly is. Now I just wanna see that movie!
Dr. Strangejones.
share""INVENTED"?
Pinocchiooooooo!!!!!
I mentioned "inside the asteroid" mainly because it was part of the great story that Empire Strikes Back is. Ok, most of the Hoth scenes look like Norway, most of Inside the Asteroid looks like a dimly lit film set, most of The Swamp Planet Dagobah looks like a rain-forest, most of The FUCKING FLOATING CLOUD CITY Bespin looks like a film set of a futuristic office building.
But, the quality of the putting all this together was outstanding. It was fun, silly, adventurous, futuristic, easy to follow, exciting and much more.
I remember when I first saw ESB and they went to the Cloud City I thought to myself "this is ridiculous" but about 20 minutes later Luke has been spat out and BENEATH the Cloud City hanging for his life! It worked perfectly!
EVEN IF THEY MADE A NEW STAR WARS OF EQUAL QUALITY TO ESB.YOU WOULDNT RECOGNIZE IT,SIMPLY BEACUSE YOU ARE AN ADULT NOW AND NATURALLY JADED TO THINGS IN A WAY YOUNG YOU COULD NEVR IMAGINE...I WATCHED MANNEQUIN OVER AND OVER WHEN I WAS A KID,OR HOWARD THE DUCK.TO THIS DAY THEYRE FAVORITES OF MINE,IF THEY WERE MADE TODAY,NO WAY I WOULDNT THINK THEY SUCKED.NOSTALGIA AND EARLY EXPERIENCE WEIGH MORE THAN QUALITY.
sharenail .
head.
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I think this one had the best dialogue and character moments of all the SW movies.
That's what took it to the next level, along with the fantastic worlds they created.
This was made by a collaboration of filmakers at the height of their careers - firing on all cylinders. Also George Lucas had the trilogy mapped out better. But the real genious was probably irvin Kershner who got the best performances out of everyone and Gary Kurtz for producing this marvel. I have a hard time believing Kasdan (the genius behind Solo - A Star Wars story???) wrote this, I think the clever parts must of come from the late Leigh Bracket.
It was a big, bold follow up to the biggest film of all at the time. They took the time and care to get it right. With probably the best movie soundtrack you will ever hear. This is simply a masterpiece.
Also George Lucas had the trilogy mapped out better.
Really , Luke snogging his sister implies he was making it up as he went along.
I dont think Lucas knew DV was LS's dad in '77 , only when he came to make TESB
I have a hard time believing Kasdan (the genius behind Solo - A Star Wars story???) wrote this
To me Rogue One is close to this one. A sad ending and a dark movie with not much humor in it except for the robot part.
shareThe same reason Hollywood couldn't make more dramas like "Casablanca" and "Citizen Kane", or more musicals like "Singin' in the Rain":
Because everybody tries to make the best films EVER, and almost everyone fails, even George Lucas. Perfect films are miracles, where everyone involved does the best job possible, everything they try works, the stars are in alignment, etc. And if that happens once a decade that's an unusally good average.
The empire strikes back is "the" star wars movie.
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