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Some interesting BTS trivia about the film has been revealed


Some very interesting trivia about the film has recently come to light thanks to an interesting conversation sparked by an individual in the comments section of the film on Youtube. This person has shared a truly remarkable fact about himself. When he was very young, he was very close to being cast as Joseph in The Changeling. He recalls his short but memorable time spent on the set with the cast and crew.

His original comment:

“My father's secretary's daughter was the casting director for this film. She saw my picture on my dad's desk and cast me as the title character "Joseph". Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) after my screen test and then shooting some footage they brought a child psychologist on set who determined I'd be traumatized for life. So they hired a kid who was older and skinnier than me and my scenes ended up on the cutting room floor. No idea if that's my voice in the séance scene or not but I do a pretty decent impression that creeps out my friends. At least I got to spend a few days on that spooky set, meet George C Scott and pretend to get murdered. I still have a Polaroid of me on set.”


Comment in response to a user asking how many sets were built inside of panorama studios:

“I have no idea. It was a labyrinth and I was pretty young. I only spent time
in a few of the rooms. My screen test was in the living room where the seance took place. Here's some trivia: They had me lay on the sofa and an actor came at me and pretended to smother me with a pillow. They just told me to look scared and I guess they liked my "acting." I think it's plausible that the original murder of Joseph was by smothering and the drowning was a later script change.”


In response to my comment telling him that information was really fascinating and if he had any other stories to share from his experiences on set:

“All I remember about George C Scott is being intimidated by him. Everyone on set was so deferential and he had such a presence I instinctively knew he was someone important. Mostly I spent time with the director and the actor who murdered Joseph though. I remember thinking he was dressed weird. Everyone was super nice but I was just shy and confused by all the commotion on set.”


As you can see, this information sheds a bit of light on how things operated on the set of The Changeling. I thought you would all find this information just as intriguing as I did.

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Seems kinda silly to bring in a child psychologist after the kid had the part. I guess the pussification of North America's children had already begun back then.

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I thought that was a bit odd as well. But I guess in a way we should be glad they did because then Voldi Way wouldn't have been cast and that kid would have ended up scarred for life. In any case, it was a very cautious thing to do.

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I agree. I don't think it's pussification at all here. I mean it was a young boy that to pretend to be drowned in a tub... if I had that acting gig as a 7 or 8 year old... and back in 1980 I wasn't used to even seeing actors pretend to be dead on screen... it could be somewhat traumatizing. Pretending to be drowned in a near nude scene for a movie. And at that age I thought the kids in Willy Wonka's movie all died except Charlie who was nearly chopped up to death. That first movie scared the CHOCOLATE out of me! My parents didn't really 'protect me' so much, more like I did myself. When we watched movies or TV... I was really perturbed when I saw characters die in a movie... whether they deserved it or not. I just always found it disturbing. I kind of miss that innocence... and yet, I still remember it. Maybe that's a good thing.



3rd generation American from a long line of Gottscheers... it was Drandul, dude!

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I'm in the same mind-set as you as well. I don't think the procedure they put the child actor(s) through was "pussification" at all. It was a carefully and well planned routine that would ensure whoever was picked for the role wasn't going to walk away from the experience with a bad case of PTSD. And when you think about it, this isn't a mild scene at all. Not by a long shot. Especially for a child actor who was only eight years old. (I think the guy who was almost cast in the part was two years younger so no wonder he wasn't chosen.)

What cannot be understated is that Voldi Way was in legitimate danger while filming that scene. And obviously, the crew understood that and took it very seriously. As they should have. Yes, there were probably paramedics on set that day just in case something were to go awry, but still, permanent damage could have been done and I almost can't believe they were able to get away with it. There's no faking that. Even if he was really good at holding his breath for a long time as Peter Medak said, there was still a huge amount of risk involved in the scene. They were right to be so cautious!

I was really impressed actually to hear that they had gone so far as to hire a child psychologist just to be sure that no psychological damage would be done. You hear so many sad stories about child stars who make it big initially but then grow up as damaged adults. Thank god Voldi Way didn't end up that way. (At least, as far as I'm aware.)

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I think that the producers/director and crew went to great lengths to protect child actors when performing in a horror/thriller movie.
I remember Danny Lloyd the little boy who played Danny in the 1980 The Shinning saying he thought the movie was an adventure movie. He didn't see the movie until he was an adult and was really shocked by it.
He had no idea what it was about and hadn't been traumatised or frightened at all.
He said the scene where Jack Nicholson was chasing him through the maze was done as a game and it didn't bother him at all.

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Oh funny. Never heard that, but in this case. They do move the camera around a bit. It starts from above, then it changes from BEHIND the father holding his legs. Then I think we saw just a few second of the face under the water, then just the hand on the side going into the water after banging the side (where all you see is the hand & arm). The first scene was very quick. And you don't SEE anything, so he had to have been wearing a skin tight suit around his mid section... I'm betting he just held his breath a bit. Because the time you actually see the kid from above really wasn't for very long and most people can hold their breath a good 40 seconds or more underwater, (some really good swimmers more than that) the rest was probably somewhat 'trick' photography. And that over head scene was only about 12-20 seconds. It may be rated R but my kids were watching it with me. And my little girl was all like "oh no!" And got a little emotional... and I turned and told her, well, we have to have the history of where the ghost CAME from, right? She was a little better after that.



3rd generation American from a long line of Gottscheers... it was Drandul, dude!

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Yeah, what a pussy that kid was. A little fake parental drowning caught on film never hurt anyone.

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Although I agree with the other poster in their notion implying the pussification of America's youth, as well as found it funny, I must say here that your sarcasm response was comedy gold.


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I don't think that's his voice in the seance scene, it kind of sounds like a woman doing a kids voice to me

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