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Sooo do I have this correct?


Chevy chases character was porking a teenager? Haven’t seen the movie in a while so if I’m wrong about this that’s why

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I'm pretty sure she was over 18 though. So, not statutory rape.

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Are you sure? Her parents apparently had the authority over her to send her to live with Smails for the summer (because she was being too trampy). But if that's the case and she is of legal age then she is guilty of statutory rape because she had sex with Danny who was still in high school. Also Chevy Chase was 37, even if Lacey were 18 that's still creepy as hell.

Also don't you find it odd that Lacey and Ty having to keep their relationship a secret wasn't a plot point? Just look at how Smails reacted when he caught Lacey and Danny in bed??? He tried to freaking kill him (and that scene was hilarious), Lacey sleeping with Ty was 1000X more inappropriate. Heck Mrs. Smails freaked out just because Dannunzio (sp???) was giving Lacey a back rub.

I really have a problem with the Ty/Lacey romance subplot because A) It has no bearing at all on the plot, B) It's incredibly odd considering the huge difference in their ages, and C) It isn't funny (the antics with Murray, the scene with the Bishop also had little bearing on the plot but they were at least funny). Another thing that's weird is both Ty and Danny both nailed the same girl (and she's Danny's age), yet Ty and Danny remained friends the entire film and this is never brought up. Again you'd think that they'd at least work this incredibly awkward situation that into the plot, but no it goes nowhere.

Now maybe after Smails lost the $80,000 it would have been funny if Lacey jumped into Ty's arms, they started making out and Smails was powerless to stop them as he had just been emasculated in front of the whole club and his spirit was completely broken, that would have been at least somewhat humorous and the Ty/Lacey subplot would have had some payoff.

Maybe I'm looking too far into this, from what I understand the entire cast and crew were stoned throughout the making of this but this subplot has always puzzled me.

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I agree the age gap might be creepy but I myself had a teacher back in 2005 in highschool who was in his 50s and had married a woman who was in her 20s. So this sort of thing does happen. Also the age of consent may have been different in 1979 when the movie was filmed. Some states actually have it at age 16 from what I've heard.

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Ok but just look at how Smails reacted when he caught Danny just imagine how he’d react if he found out about Ty? How is that not a plot point? Their relationship has no bearing on the plot and it’s not funny so why put it in there? And yes it is creepy, yet Ty is the person we are supposed to be pulling for

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Danny is the protagonist of the move, that's who we are pulling for.

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Danny, Ty and Al are the protagonists. Smails and Beeper are the antagonists.

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The Ty-Lacey pairing wasn't creepy in the least. He was a young, wealthy, good looking guy and if she was 18, she was the oldest looking 18 year old ever.

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And Danny was supposed to be a teenager yet he was played by a 25 year old. Again her parents obviously had the authority to send her away and Mrs. Smails apparently had the authority to break up her backrub, if she was above 18 she could have just told them to f-ck off and get on with her backrub. Also when Smails caught Lacey and Danny in bed if Lacey was a legal adult she could have told Smails in the words of Michelle Pfeiffer: "Who, when, wear and how I f-ck is none of your business" (granted I guess he did have a right to be upset that they did it in his bed).

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But Danny was a senior looking for a means to finance college. He could have been 18 or 19.

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I always thought she was older than the caddy gang.

Her parents had ability (not authority) to send her to Nebraska because they controlled her access to money.

I see nothing in the movie that indicates her relationship with Ty is a secret, but a one night thing.

Danny vs. Ty? Are you kidding? Danny was a lumber yard bound caddy. Ty was a club member, son of a founder, and richer than Smails. Smails would have welcomed a relationship between Ty and his niece until the third act.

I think you out too much thought into a National Lampoon movie.

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OK that might make sense that the reason Smails freaked out about Danny doing Lacey is because he was poor and Smails didn't think he was worthy of Lacey. I guess that makes sense that Mrs. Smails would freak out when seeing Dannunzio (sp?) (who was also Caddy scum) giving Lacey a back rub.

Maybe I"m wrong I always thought Lacey was the same age as the rest of the Caddies.

As for Lacey leaving to go to Nebraska your theory doesn't make sense. She was sleeping around with Ty who had money, couldn't she just do the same thing back home and just find some rich guy to take care of her?

This entire Ty/Lacey subplot still has zero bearing on the plot and it isn't funny (the scene with the Bishop also has nothing to do with the plot but it was hilarious so I let that slide)

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Regarding why Lacey was in Nebraska to begin with, Judge Smails says that "Lacey's mother sent her to us for the summer". To which Lacey replies "yes, I was really getting tired of having fun all the time". (in dreary, old Manhattan according to Dr. Beeper). I always felt like she was playing a character who was in their early 20's and whose parent decided they needed to get away from whatever element they were in. Parents do still parent their children beyond the age of 18.

I agree with the posters that don't see any big deal with either of her flings in the movie. She was clearly a party girl who was looking for whatever fun she could find in Nebraska.

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It's just a really weird subplot, it's not funny and it doesn't go anywhere.

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You don't go to the Netherlands much do you? Men in their 40's marrying women in their early 20's is not uncommon.

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Also Ty and Danny both screwed the same girl, that seems like a pretty important plot point and you'd think that would have been brought up at some point?????

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It was still the disco era, rampant sex was still going on with multiple partners.

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Still that seems like it would be a rather interesting plot point and it's never brought up. It's just very odd. I really think the entire Ty/Lacey romance should have been deleted, as I said it's not funny, it's not interesting and it doesn't have any effect on the story.

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And Disco was pretty much dead in 1980, it was pretty much dead in 1977 but Saturday Night Fever re-energized it for a brief period of time before it died off completely.

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AIDS has entered the chat.

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She was way too mature to be a teenager.

She was at least as old as Chuck (the snobby guy clerking for Smails while he studied for the bar exam). I'd guess Lacy was early to mid twenties.

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How do you know that? Again the actresses age is irrelevant, Danny Noonan was a teenager yet Michael OKeefe was 25. Keep in mind you also have to address why this subplot was in the movie because as I have already stated it is irrelevant and it's not funny.

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How do you know she was underage? There was NOTHING in the film that suggests she was underage, much less a teenager. Even if she was originally intended to be a teenager, she was portrayed as worldly and mature in the film. She didn't look, dress, or act like the rest of the teenagers in this film. Absent any evidence to the contrary, to say she's underage is just a guess.

We know Danny is a teenager because it was stated in the film he was a senior in high school.

Keep in mind you also have to address why this subplot was in the movie ...


No I don't..




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So far it seems we have at least 15 minutes of film that isn't funny and goes nowhere. Look it's a great film, it's a comedy classic, but that entire subplot should have been removed. Lacey still would have served a purpose because her sleeping in Danny would have caused the tension it did with Judge Smails.

And yes there is plenty to suggest that she was underage, her parents and her Aunt/Uncle had authority over her. If she was of age she wouldn't have to listen to them.

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Naw, she was probably 21 or around there. And just because Chase was 37 when he filmed the movie doesn't mean the character was supposed to be that age.

I always assumed she was in college and her parents didn't want her partying her summer away at home with all her friends. Maybe her parents were summering in Europe and didn't want to leave her alone in Manhattan by herself. Anyway, yes, parents control their kids when they are over 18. They could have threatened to cut off her money or tuition. Who knows? The reason isn't important to the plot.

Also, she was clearly trusted on her lonesome, which a minor would not have. She was drinking at events IIRC. She was off smoking pot with those dorks, and took Danny back to the judge's house by herself. She was left alone for long periods of time - she hooked up with Ty at his house and was there for hours late at night and the judge never wondered where she was. She clearly has serious independence and can do what she wants, something a minor wouldn't be allowed to do.

There is nowhere that mentions she's a minor and she certainly doesn't act or look like one.

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