Brave New World vs 1984


So what do you all think is the worst society, 1984 or Brave New World. This woman whose a college professor on literature and who teaches both books in her class says that Brave New World is the worst of the two societys. Even though Brave New World isnt seemingly as totallitarian as 1984, she says its worse because the way the government controls people is more hidden. They don't do it by viewing people through telescreens and having thought police all over the place watching people's every move, but instead they brainwash and program people before theyre even born (decanted in Brave New World) while theyre still in the womb (bottle) and so therefore they don't have to worry about a rebellion because people would be programmed to accept the system and go along with it and get high on soma. So she says its worse than 1984 because they control the very way you think with their various programming techniques, which no even in the society of 1984 are they able to do, although they come close, getting people to believe that one and one make three, and stuff like that.

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Brave New World, for the same reasons that your college professor mentioned.

Huxley had a deep understanding of behavioural conditioning in psychology.


Huxley taught Orwell at Eton:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley


We live in a Brave New World except economics, rather than science is the ultimate glass ceiling.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

Comparisons with George Orwell's 1984

Social critic Neil Postman contrasts the worlds of 1984 and Brave New World in the foreword of his 1986 book Amusing Ourselves to Death. He writes:

What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.




Brave New World Revisited

Brave New World Revisited (Harper & Row, 1958), written by Huxley almost thirty years after Brave New World, was a non-fiction work in which Huxley considered whether the world had moved toward or away from his vision of the future from the 1930s. He believed when he wrote the original novel that it was a reasonable guess as to where the world might go in the future but in Brave New World Revisited he concluded that the world was becoming much more like Brave New World much faster than he thought.

Huxley analysed the causes of this, such as overpopulation as well as all the means by which populations can be controlled. He was particularly interested in the effects of drugs and subliminal suggestion. Brave New World Revisited is different in tone due to Huxley's evolving thought, as well as his conversion to Vedanta in the interim between the two books.

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What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.

Exactley. In 1984, they are conscious that they are being oppressed; in BNW even if they knew and understood oppression, they wouldn't that they were.
The scary thing about BNW is that it is a benevolent Totalitarian state and rather than stop people from doing the wrong thing, they merely prevent any thinking towards any wrong thing.


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I like 1984 better (only talking about the books). It's more philosophic, more sardonic and intense.

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But I would explain that OUR society has indeed been programmed to accept whatever "they" tell us.

From birth, our natural tendency to question has been blunted through the relentless propaganda of institutional authority and credentialed hierarchy.

As parents, we are told that the education bureaucracy knows all, the medical authoritarianists see all, and the best we can do is to submit to their highest sublime pre-eminence.

Inject me with another ineffective mercury-laden vaccine please, and calm my nerves with your widely-advertised, medically-prescribed poison, even if it causes extreme risk of cardiovascular disease. Feed me GMO foods and add extra MSG. I promise to brush my teeth with my favorite fluoride rat poison.

Oh! I almost forgot: Give me ultra-thin latex to protect me from my animalistic lusts, so I can more easily contract deadly man-made viruses such as AIDS and HPV.

Thank you, my benevolent leaders! I love you!!!

What's that??? A mulching machine? I know you mean me no harm so I will follow. I love you.

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If you have children I feel bad for them. Get them vaccinated you ill-informed Jenny McCarthyist.

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