why R?


Sry but I have not seen this movie, but befor I do why is it R? Also why is "The Wild Bunch" R? thx

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It's been a while since I've seen Tome Horn, but I suspect it was R due to some languange and violence. Remember, this is four years prior to the PG-13 rating, so it went PG to R.
As for the Wild Bunch it is extremely violent (not graphic by today's standards, but pretty unrelenting). There is also languange and some nudity. If it was re-released today, it would probably still be R. WB is one of those movies where they were forced by the censors to lighten the color of the blood to make it look less graphic (same with Taxi Driver, incidentally).

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...there are a few shootings in the film, one where a man gets his head blown off by a shotgun. Also, one guy says the dreaded "F" word.

I like pie.

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Don't forget the washtub scene (see movie)
"I don't reckon I got no reason to kill nobody,mm-mmm"

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It's a violent movie

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Just saw it today after a long time and there are two guys that get shot in the head with blood flying out..........not over the top and the edits were quick but it was still quite graphic.

And the 'F' word was used once (He was one of the guys that got shot in the head as I mentioned above).

Not a hard 'R' or anything though.......

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I just watched this film for the first time.
Some blood when a person gets shot but very tame for todays standards.
No nudity.
Steve played the part well.

If it harms none, do what thou wilt.

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Perhaps Steve wanted an R rating.

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I'm not sure he'd have that kind of clout but your idea does make sense (get an R). The movie industry has long asserted that they get a better draw from an R than a PG-13 than a PG than a G (the lower rating lowers the draw).

That may or not be true, I believe it's not; the draw is based on many factors, including the rating. I think the principal factor is how they position the film in advertising. Present it as a kiddie movie and you couldn't get a teenager to see it for free (there are, of course, exceptions).

It seems to me the thing to do is let the movie company decide on the film's rating, but only upwards not downwards. In other words, they claim that a higher rating gets a higher draw - so make the movie, have it rated, then adjust the rating to whatever you'd like higher than that. Your film receives a G rating - adjust the rating to anything you'd like (PG, PG-13, R, X); receive a PG rating adjust it to anything but a G, and so on. No need to change the film, simply ask for the higher rating. Should save a bit of money as well.

A film can then be made without gratuitous sex, violence, language and yet still indicate the audience it was made for. The movie the artists would like to make can be made free of such pettiness. It allows them to include sex, violence, language where they believe the story calls for it, not because some bean counter says they should. It allows us to watch a movie to which they haven't added ridiculous language in the first 5 minutes ("penis breath" in ET, for example) just for the rating. Meanwhile movies like "Patton" could still have language that the story required (it actually needed more, IMO).


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Language and Violence

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