Mr Sands or Carlin
hu would win that fight, i think Carlin would put a good battle but would get banged
shareCarlin can withstand quite a beating !
truthfully one on one i think carlin would win
he knows he cant fight the screws ans the end shows they all stick together !
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Carlin would of KICKED THE CRAP out of Mr Sands
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You could tell when Sands was slapping Carlin in the face that Carlin was gagging to knock him out with a bag of pool balls!
For every action....there is a definate and distinct reaction.
Carlin would've smashed the bastard.He didn't because he couldn't fight the whole lot of them-he'd tried that before.
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Not much even a top fighter would have been able to do against a hundred kids going nuts.A lot of former soldiers end up working in places like prisons and borstals,id say yes he is a bully,but he may also be a real hard nut
I knew some people that worked in a similar place, all of them have anger issuses.
But the end scene....
SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.... shows that when outnumbered they are pussies. The next scene when the key players are being dragged into the cells semi unconcious. I always knew that after the cavalry arrived to clean up the riot, the screws would hold each one of them down and give them what for.
You can learn a lot about people from watching this film.
I'd say Sands would win.
When I was Carlins age, my step dad was a real cnut to me, and I retaliated and got a mans beating in return.
A few years later when I was 18, it kicked off again and I felt I would have battered him, however, family pulled us apart and on paper, it was a draw.
When I hit 19 and really beefed up and doing the rounds with the lads at night, my step dad couldn't have been nicer as he KNEW I'd knock the living snot out of him if it came to it.
Comparing this is like comparing the original question, the lads at 15 MIGHT have been a bit tasty and fancied their chances, but they were still youths against grown hard men.
Fast Forward a few years, they'd have battered the guards..........which is why the guards were so sadistic knowing they only had a 18 month window to be as nasty and ruthless as possible
Althought Carlin might seem hard, notice that every time he beats someone up, he takes them by surprise and uses some kind of instrument (pool balls in sock, iron bar, smashing Bank's face onto the sink).
I don't think it we'd know exactly who would win, but I'd go for Sands.
thats how you get someone, no point gettin yourself slapped back
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shareThat true however I reckon Carlin would have beaten Sands in a fight on the streets (he'd be older than 15) as Borstal went on much later till 22 (I think)
I reckon Carlins about 18-19, and Winstone himself was 22 when he made the film.
Borstal age went up to 21. Carlin was probably meant to be 17 or 18.
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