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The most underrated scene


What's the most underrated scene in the movie? What scene is scary but doesn't get commented on enough.

My vote is the scene where the vampires(Ned and Mike) wake up and start approaching Mark in the background while Ben is wreaking havoc on Barlow. The light bouncing on and off them added to the suspense.

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that is such an overlooked part I remember seeing it the first time them crawling towards mark thinking turn around turn around I thought he was done for.
I was so relived he saw them and slammed the door shut the swinging light was a very nice effect

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WoooooHoooo yea! Very scary.....

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I wouldn't call this scene "scary", but I always enjoy when Ben and Jason eat at Dell's, and Ben tells him about going into the Marsten House.

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I liked the slow drawn out crawl great build up
The bar scene you speak of I liked as well
David Soul really brought his "A" game when he was staring at the house and sweating was intense

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A wonderful scene to me is when "the hand" gets Larry. Imagine how cool it would be if it WASN'T Barlow? For many years, I never assumed it was him. Those days, more things were left up to the imagination, and more scary.

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S.L79 is scary for what you see but what you don't see is far more scary to me like when mike was telling Ben and Jason its out there I let it in

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When Ralphie encounters his brother was a good scene to me.

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Yeah but which one? The dream or the actual encounter.

Assuming you're talking about the actual encounter, I'm thinking of posting a discussion concerning the fact that they received dreams prior to being changed. I don't know what the book says about that but I believe it would be an interesting discussion.

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Yeah but which one? The dream or the actual encounter.

Assuming you're talking about the actual encounter, I'm thinking of posting a discussion concerning the fact that they received dreams prior to being changed. I don't know what the book says about that but I believe it would be an interesting discussion.
Was there a dream sequence in the 1979 film? I don't remember that. Weren't there two actual encounters; one at home in his bedroom, and then another at the hospital? Have other plans for today, but won't be able to do anything outside as it is supposed to rain tomorrow, so I'll watch the film then to make sure.

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The first encounter seems like just an invite for Ralphie(could've been Danny's dream), but the second visit is the actual bite at the hospital.

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The first encounter seems like just an invite for Ralphie(could've been Danny's dream), but the second visit is the actual bite at the hospital.
Like I said earlier, I don't remember any dream sequences in this film. There were in The Stand, another SK film, but I'll watch and report what I find.

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Gary,

You added the word 'sequence' to dream, I didn't say there were sequences, however I did mention Ralphie's first appearance as a dream which I guess would be a sequence.
I was primarily referring to the references to several people having dreams: Eva Miller said she had "sweet, sweet dreams" with Weasel visiting her, the deputy said he was up all night dreaming about Ned visiting him, Marjorie Glick, when she collapsed in the kitchen, saying she had dreams of Danny saying he wanted to come home,and of course Mike said at the table at the restaurant that "there's somebody out there" in a dream.

Maybe none of those things are in the book, which I will read soon, but I thought that it would be an interesting discussion concerning what or if Hooper/King thought about the connection between the real world and the dream world.

The Matrix dealt with this in depth.

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Gary,

You added the word 'sequence' to dream, I didn't say there were sequences, however I did mention Ralphie's first appearance as a dream which I guess would be a sequence.
I was primarily referring to the references to several people having dreams: Eva Miller said she had "sweet, sweet dreams" with Weasel visiting her, the deputy said he was up all night dreaming about Ned visiting him, Marjorie Glick, when she collapsed in the kitchen, saying she had dreams of Danny saying he wanted to come home,and of course Mike said at the table at the restaurant that "there's somebody out there" in a dream.

Maybe none of those things are in the book, which I will read soon, but I thought that it would be an interesting discussion concerning what or if Hooper/King thought about the connection between the real world and the dream world.

The Matrix dealt with this in depth.
All right; I take your point about the word 'sequence'. Perhaps it would have been better had I used the word 'scenes', but for some unfathomable reason that word never occurred to me. And you are correct in that dreams were discussed by numerous people. My point was however, that no dreams were actually shown in the mini-series, and the scene where Ralphie visits Danny is not a dream; as far as the story is concerned, it actually took place. Marjorie Glick was visited by Danny; Eva was visited by Weasel and they were both 'turned'. They described these encounters as dreams, but in the story, they were not dreams, they were real.

Like I say, I can't do anything outside today (it is raining), so I'll watch the film and see if there are any dream scenes with Danny and Ralphie, or any others. If I see any, I'll admit I was wrong.

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watch for the "goof" when Danny opens the window. How cool would that be if that was Barlow in the room with Danny too?

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You're not right or wrong Gary. You haven't said anything that contradicts what happened in the movie. I believe the book explains what happened more clearly than the movie did. Some of the individuals I quoted claimed to have had dreams and I thought that might be the catalyst or prediction for the visit. It sort of seems that way unless you've read the book which I haven't yet.

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You're not right or wrong Gary. You haven't said anything that contradicts what happened in the movie. I believe the book explains what happened more clearly than the movie did. Some of the individuals I quoted claimed to have had dreams and I thought that might be the catalyst or prediction for the visit. It sort of seems that way unless you've read the book which I haven't yet.


Yes; definitely read the book; if you don't greatly enjoy it, I'll be very surprised. Most used book stores have it in paperback or you can order it on-line.

As for the question of whether or not certain events in the story were dreams or actually happened as far as the story is concerned, I just watched the scenes in question and they were not dreams, they were actually parts of the story. After all, didn't the boy end up in the hospital? His blood loss was real as far as the story goes.

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Yeah, I see what you mean. One question though, if he already bit him, why did he come a second time and bite him again? I saw a post on another thread asking if they were bit multiple times. Is that true?

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Yeah, I see what you mean. One question though, if he already bit him, why did he come a second time and bite him again? I saw a post on another thread asking if they were bit multiple times. Is that true?
To answer your question, yes; according to my understanding of the folklore, the victims of a vampire very often are bitten multiple times.

Case in point, Dracula: Bram Stoker was quite accurate, I have heard, concerning the relevant folk beliefs of the region whence the Count came, and the Count has several; 'sessions' with Lucy Westenra. Van Helsing would likely have saved her life by applying various folk remedies, were it not for the well-meaning but ultimately fatal intervention of Lucy's mother, who interfered with the good doctor's treatment and doomed her daughter.

If you have not read Dracula, you really should do so. It has a very unusual form, in that it consists entirely of letters, diary entrances and business correspondence between the various characters. Stephen King does the same thing in the short story Jerusalem's Lot, which some describe as a prequel to 'Salem's Lot. I don't think it is, as the only real similarities are the names, and the approximate location.

Hope this helps.

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Yes, these people said they all had dreams of someone visiting them, but it was no dream. They had actually been visited by these undead people. It just seemed like a dream to them, possibly a side effect of the hypnosis used on the victims. Everyone being tired after such "dreams" were the result of being bitten.

"Do All Things For God's Glory"-1 Corinthians 10:31
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Good scripture. You don't see that often on this site.

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Thank you very much on noticing and liking the scripture. I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and try to share the Bible in whatever way possible so I thought this scripture would be good.

"Do All Things For God's Glory"-1 Corinthians 10:31
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The bit when Straker finds the masters crate and it has just exploded when he tore his way out. Just eerie.

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Yeah but which one? The dream or the actual encounter.

Assuming you're talking about the actual encounter, I'm thinking of posting a discussion concerning the fact that they received dreams prior to being changed. I don't know what the book says about that but I believe it would be an interesting discussion.
This comes to mind for me as I go back over some of these older threads, but didn't Danny have a dream that was not shown just before his first encounter with Ralphie? I recall that he was tossing and turning just before he got up to open the window.

So, I concede there were dreams but the encounters really took place as well.

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In the first Danny/Ralphie scene Ralphie simply floated in with a smile but didn't bite Danny. This was in Danny's bedroom at home while the actual bite took place afterwards in the hospital. I just watched it again yesterday.

I also suspect that there is a version of this movie that does not include the bedroom visit. It might be the shorter cut version. I say this because I didn't originally remember there being two visits until just a few years ago.

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In the first Danny/Ralphie scene Ralphie simply floated in with a smile but didn't bite Danny. This was in Danny's bedroom at home while the actual bite took place afterwards in the hospital. I just watched it again yesterday.

I also suspect that there is a version of this movie that does not include the bedroom visit. It might be the shorter cut version. I say this because I didn't originally remember there being two visits until just a few years ago.
The bite was not shown, this I admit, but are you certain that he was not bitten? I believe that he was.

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I'm only going by what they showed in the movie, him not biting. Then of course, he does bite him in the second scene so I assume he must not have in the first unless he bit him twice.

I took this as the dream foreshadowing the bite but I'm not sure how that lines up with the book. If he did bite him in the first scene the movie gives no indication of that which leads me to believe that Hooper left it as just a dream.

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I'm only going by what they showed in the movie, him not biting. Then of course, he does bite him in the second scene so I assume he must not have in the first unless he bit him twice.

I took this as the dream foreshadowing the bite but I'm not sure how that lines up with the book. If he did bite him in the first scene the movie gives no indication of that which leads me to believe that Hooper left it as just a dream.
And I am going by what is in the movie as well. My point, however, is that after Danny's first encounter with his brother, he goes into the hospital and Bill Norton tells Ben that Danny probably has pernicious anemia. Coming after Ralphie's nocturnal visit, that tells me that the encounter was not a dream. The visit in the story was real and not a dream.

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This is scary. That dude in the corner: http://i.imgur.com/Puu6a7R.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DeQkXX3.jpg


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I posted another thread entitled "Another presence of evil". I think you just solved the mystery.

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This is scary. That dude in the corner: http://i.imgur.com/Puu6a7R.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DeQkXX3.jpg
I didn't see anything in the links that this nice lady provided, so I went to my DVD and watched the scene several times in slow-motion, backwards and forward, and I think I saw a reflection in the glass as Danny opened the window. It looked like Ralphie to me.

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It's certainly not Ralphie it's a camera man, funnily enough it's listed as a goof on IMDB.

Crew or equipment visible
During Ralphie's second visit to Danny after being vampirized, Danny opens the hospital windows and one of the crew members is reflected in the glass.


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When Mike jumps into the grave. He looks up into the sky and the glick boy is right there in his face when he looks back down. The rocking chair scene still scares the crap out of me. Those soulless eyes? *shudders*

The scene with the crate is pretty underrated. The way it kept moving closer to them was creepy as *beep*.

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The scene with the crate is pretty underrated. The way it kept moving closer to them was creepy as *beep*.
The very rapid drop in temperature experienced by the two men in the cab is consistent with the folklore as well.

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The scene with the crate is pretty underrated. The way it kept moving closer to them was creepy as *beep*.
The very rapid drop in temperature experienced by the two men in the cab is consistent with the folklore as well.

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At the beginning of the movie Ben Mears comes into town to examine the Marsten House with a look of fearful concern on his face and watches as Straker exits the house. Ben touches his face and realizes he is sweating.

There is no commentary or dialogue in that particular scene, however I always thought it was very effective in setting an atmospheric tone for (the worse horrors) that were going to take place within the film's running time.

The fact that Ben had an issue with the house - and he most certainly did - was central to his being there, and later also central to how the story would unfold.

The scene is not in the novel, and yet it is still good, and underrated stuff.

Cheers.

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At the beginning of the movie Ben Mears comes into town to examine the Marsten House with a look of fearful concern on his face and watches as Straker exits the house. Ben touches his face and realizes he is sweating.

There is no commentary or dialogue in that particular scene, however I always thought it was very effective in setting an atmospheric tone for (the worse horrors) that were going to take place within the film's running time.

The fact that Ben had an issue with the house - and he most certainly did - was central to his being there, and later also central to how the story would unfold.

The scene is not in the novel, and yet it is still good, and underrated stuff.
The novel sets the scene quite well, too. It just does it in a different way, using what I'll call a 'semi-flashback' method. Probably not the right term but it is the best I could come up at the moment. He remembers certain things about the house, not revealing these things to the reader until later and then stops remembering them when they become too threatening.

Do you see this as well?

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the scene where the house is burning and you can hear screams from inside














you do not punish someone for having big boobs!

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I liked the end scene when it was revealed that Susan Norton was the vampire following Ben Mears.

She followed him across several national borders for what we first assumed was revenge. I liked that it wasn't for revenge, but out of a confused sense of love. She really thought that she would be doing him a favor by bringing him over to the vampires' side, even though they likely would've destroyed Mears anyway for killing the Master. Most likely, she was rationalizing her need to feed and reconciling it with her love for him. This was a very interesting twist, and it gave some real insight into the psychology of the vampires. They weren't simply malevolent, ravenous demons but had human emotions too. Her love for Ben was stronger than her loyalty to the Master. This is why she followed him, not to kill him specifically but to rejoin him I her own way. Ben Mears felt real pain when he destroyed her. It was a great way to end the film.

I thought the flying vampires were a little hokey.

I liked the scene where the priest sacrifices himself for the sake of the boy.

It's obvious that The Strain and Fright Night took a lot from these films.

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every scene with Kenneth McMillan, he had this evil smile, a perfect preparation for "Dune".

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Where the parents are talking with the priest, and Barlow shows up on the ground, first as a piece of cloth that gathers contour that tah dah!! it's Barlow!!

But i will ask this question? Aren't vampires supposed to be invited into your home? Though Straker was there, Barlow can't come in without an invitation..

Also? Straker in this scene was magnificent. That smile while he laid out the bargain while thumping the cane on the ground was like a carny making a bargain with someone in the audience..

Great acting.



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