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Most underrated movie...ST. JACK


Most underrated movie of all time
Ben Gazzara is awesome

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I 100% agree , this seems to be a forgotten gem

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Yes, I'm in agreement also. I saw this film on TV last night and enjoyed it thoroughly. Ben Gazzara gives a wonderfully understated performance as Jack Flowers, and Denholm Elliot was amazing (as usual) as William Leigh. Excellent supporting cast too. If you get a chance to see it don't miss it!!

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This movie is as good as all of you have said. Although it is at bottom a movie about Jack Flowers and what kind of man he is, the broader theme of the picture is the declining of British imperial domination in southeast Asia and what has been called the passing of the torch to the United States. There is a telling moment early in the film, where Leigh and Flowers are in the back of a Singapore taxicab on Leigh's first trip there from Hong Kong, the last holdout of the British Empire in Asia (unless you count the decadent old English barflies). Leigh is coughing, obviously not a healthy man, and throws his cigarette out the window of the cab. Flowers tells him the Singaporean government has huge fines for littering. Then he chucks his cigar out the other window, signalling the common bond between these very different men.

Sex tourism is really just the ink on this canvas. It's taken for granted that men come in from all over and enter a different moral universe. Leigh is the major exception. Flowers's big break comes when a war profiteer (Bogdanovich's character) hires him to orchestrate a brothel for American soldiers in the Vietnam War. When the war ends and the business dries up, Flowers's next big chance is to participate in the humiliation of a secretly homosexual U.S. Senator (George Lazenby) whose politics have run afoul of the military-industrial complex. The real intrigue is how much of Flowers's metier is machismo and tenacity, and how much of it is real courage.

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but one of the most underrated movies, i think. i saw it first in the 80ies, when it was in cinema and fell in love with it - and sometimes i watch it again and still love it. love b.gazzara´s acting, jack flower´s very idiosyncratic nevertheless stringent morality, that flimsy (?) melancholy ... everything!
it´s a shame that it´s nearly never shown on tv and there are no dvd as far as i know.

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Actually, there are about a half-dozen used copies on Amazon right now. You should be able to get a DVD in decent shape for well under $10 shipped.

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not in germany - here´s only the novel gettable (sigh).

thank you

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m.


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It might be possible to get a US (NTSC) DVD converted to PAL. Also, some DVD players will play multiple formats.

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thank you for that useful info!

when my dvd-player doesn´t work no more i will take attention that the next one will ignore those country-codes; but before that happens i see no possibility, i have not much money and animals to feed (lol)... and the film on video and that´s better than nothing,i think (grin)

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A really amazing film. I just read the book and watched the film immediately after it. Ben Gazzara is terrific as is Denholm Elliot. Its cool to see George '007' Lazenby as the sleazy senator.

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Its part og my unversity collection. Great little film, such a shame it has been swallowed up the way it has.

"Mr Friedkin, you're not wearing a tie?" - Alfred Hitchcock

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I agree; a great film. Still, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned one of the best scenes and certainly the best line in the film.

Scene: Jack in brought before the Chinese Triad for running a cat house (only Chinese are allowed to do so by the triad). The triad members are sitting behind a long table; all dressed in long mandarin gowns and derby hats. The obvious leader of the group is smoking a cigarette in the inverted manner of every European/Asian film bad guy ever seen. All of the triad members are still as the grave, not so much as twitch. The triad leader says to Jack: "Why you no go home where the buffalo roam?"


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One of many great lines in this film. It's too bad it's so obscure.

Outside of Gazzara, Bogdanovich and a few of the other Americans in the cast, I hadn't seen most of the actors here. I suspect there were a lot of locals hired for the film.

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@ Cfoiles: I think you're imagining that scene, or confusing it with the book. The 'Buffalo Roam' line is said by Jack's 'employer' Mr Hing, around the time the GI cat house closes down, and there's no long-table scene with triad members.

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It is criminal that the Bogadanovich bio in IMDb, written by a total jerk named Jon Hopwood, spends 1000 words explaining how he has zero talent and never made a decent film after divorcing Polly Platt. This completely ignores St. Jack, his best movie.

You will see that an "official" bio was posted, since IMDb has a policy of never deleting the crap written by morons like Hopwood. If you want to get steamed, read his malicious nonsense.

"Three quarters of what is said here can be completely discounted as the raving of imbeciles" - Donald Wolfit in Blood of the Vampire (1958)

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