animal abuse


Reports state that a raccoon was beaten and traumatized during production of the sci-fi thriller, Prophecy.

A crew member called AHA’s Hollywood office to report that a raccoon was in danger of being beaten to death for a scene. Humane Officer Gordon Jones raced to the studio and stopped the action. “The actor had had enough of hitting the raccoon, and he was trying to go easy and fake it, but the director was screaming for him to keep going and hit it harder,” Jones said. He further added, “I asked them to stop, and they did. In the movie, the raccoon is thrown into a fire, but I made sure they used a dummy.” Nonetheless, AHA rated the film Unacceptable for the animal abuse that occurred.

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Why didn't Friday the 13th get into trouble for lopping off a snake's head?

"I've been living off toxic waste for years, and I'm fine! Just ask my other heads!"

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The snake was possessed by a demon under the name Pazuzu and had to have its head removed for religious reasons or it would spawn the antichrist who would take over the second planet next to the earth we call home.

Seriously.

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...... ¿Que?

"I've been living off toxic waste for years, and I'm fine! Just ask my other heads!"

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If you ask me, not enough racoons are beaten into a pulp. They are filthy, disgusting garbage eaters and we should rid the world of them. Also, that particular racoon had designs on taking over the director's job, so of course the director would say, "Beat it more!"

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You think we should rid the world of filthy, disgusting, evil raccoons (who just want food) but you don't think that about the human race, which is responsible for destroying the planet? I pity you.

"I've been living off toxic waste for years, and I'm fine! Just ask my other heads!"

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I'm curious about something, grrdevin. Are you the guy who wrote the screenplay to either "Frogs" or "Orca." If not, you REALLY have their mindset down pat.

Really though, don't hurt animals. They can be cute at times. Even Platypi.

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What, being disturbed by mankind ruining the planet? I thought everyone felt that way. Everyone but stupid fascist industrialists anyway. Nevermind, I better stop my "liberal, hippy tree-hugger crap" since it's all just garbage anyway. By the way my name isn't Pat.

If there are any creatures on this planet that have no reason to exist other than to piss us off, it's wasps, and/or mosquitoes.

"I've been living off toxic waste for years, and I'm fine! Just ask my other heads!"

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nature creates everything. A storm created by nature kills off a large protion of a species, and it is accepted. A metiorite kills all of the dinosaurus, and it is called natures way. Yet when man, a creation of nature and nothing more, kills a few animals, its a crime against logic.

Humans were designed by nature, and they were formed from evolution. If humans were evolved into what we are today, and humans continue to destroy, it is natures way.

Nature created the storms that kill. Nature created the man that kills this planet. We are a force of nature, and it is natural for us to kill, with or without reason.

Elephants kill white rhinos, helping to deplete that species numbers, yet it is natural. Man kills an animal its against morals and a horrible thing.

Nature allows us to destroy the planet, and in time, nature will cause some random thing to kill humans.

Humans are the chaos of life. Everything has a balance. Humans are the chaotic effects of evolution. One day we two will be the victims of natures changes, and even the human race will become extinct.

Your naive comment is obviously without logical thinking, and research. From now one, before you extend your uneducated fingers to type such dribble, take the time to educate yourself on such matters. No sense in posting a comment if only the outcome is to make yourself look stupid and naive.

No, this WAS to be a discusion on the Racoon, and not moral ethics. So...

According to an article published in regards to the racoon scene, it was a wild racoon, that had been tied down by one if his front paws, and then tormented to cause its actions. However, I do not know if this is all true. But supposedly the racoon was released unharmed, alittlew more afraid of humans, but otherwise unharmed.

I do not know the accuracy to this article, but it was written just the same.

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I'm sorry, but that is a staggeringly idiotic riposte. There is a difference between a storm killing an animal and a human being deciding to torture an animal for the sake of a crappy sci-fi film. Human beings are sentient beings with consciences; we can decide when it is justified to take life and when it is not. We all draw the line of appropriateness in different places, but 99% of the human population is evolved enough to draw such a line. You, however, seem to have a profound lack of moral/spiritual/ontological imagination if you are implying that humans torturing an animal for entertainment purposes or killing off an endangered species such as the white rhino is no more cause for concern than a storm or a meteorite.

Then you have the gall to reprimand the original writer for naivete and a lack of thinking. That qualifies your outburst as hypocritical post of the year in my book. Do a little thinking yourself before you spout such drivel in the future.

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Indeed. we are different because we can think and see the consequences of our actions. We should know better than to torture.


You! Obey the fist!
RIP Heath Ledger

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I could never think of if someone can describe himself any better than this.I hope the same thing happens to you and while at it you'll think about what you said here.

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See, this is where the AHA was off -- Well the least you can do after beating the hell out of a raccoon is to actually throw it into the fire and eat it. ;)

Kind of ironic that a movie that so went so over the top in wearing its environmental stripes on its sleeve would be acused of animal abuse. Guess it was the ole gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet theory.

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Just so it's clear, i have no issue with 'tree huggers' and all that.

Your rant just sounded a bit over the top, in the same way that "Frogs" and "Orca" had people doing the worst things imaginable so 'nature' could kill them.

Not to mention the fact that the worst, in terms of painfulness, death in "Frogs" go to the least offensive person- the grandma.

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Okay, obviously I can't be fascecious on this message board. Of course I don't think that all raccoons should be beaten. They are here on earth, and have as much a right to be here as we do. Of all species on earth, we humans have done the most harm to our environment. I didn't think my post would be taken seriously when the last sentence was about the raccoon wanting the director's job, but ah well.

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There is a real lack of humor and common sense by many in the posting community

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Someone needs to check the facts. An agency in Hollywood can't do a thing when a movie is being made in CANADA.

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It does not matter where the film is made, or why an animal is being abused in it or what the animal is. There is NOT A SINGLE animal species on this planet that does not serve a purpose and lives in harmony with its surrondings. But humans are the oppisite. We create the garbage and destroy the emviroment, pollute the air, land and water. We kill for sport, wage wars, murder, and act like a bunch of savages when we are supposed to be the inteligent species on this planet, HA HA HA. We are one of the stupidest. Despite being a badly done movie Prophecy nails it, we are destroying our Earth and mother nature is not going to keep taking it before she slaps back with mutations that kill us as we are killing her.

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I'm from the south, so don't think I wouldn't beat a raccoon to death, skin it, then roast that sucker over an open flame if I feel like eating "coon" meat.... And I have! I don't think most animals should be harmed, or killed for entertainment, except for bugs, and the like as they're trying to take over as it is.
You preach how humans are this, and that, but you yourself are a hypocrite in the fact that you enjoy luxury such as piped-in running water, electricity, automobiles, and every other modern conviences that have environmental impacts. The thing is, it's just a fact of life that species will come, and go. Humans will not be here for ever. Even if you don't believe in God, or other spiritual beings ending this world, it still a scientific fact that specious will fall, and something rise in it's place in time. Just ride along baby, and enjoy it while you can.

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I'm sure human kind is the worst kind and we all deserve to be beaten half to death and thrown in a fire ourselves, even the tree huggers! But what I'm really sure of is this board is *beep* hilarious. Laugh?? I think I need my jaw rewired.

"Seems to me, YOU'VE played knifey spooney before!?"

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Speak for yourself - loser.

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You've completely missed the point dumbass. Obviously this entire thing was made up.

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Yes it can if it's US Studio Production.
AND- MOST OF PROPHECY (interiors AND exteriors) was shot in LA.

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Just to let you know something about this movie:

Filmed in British Columbia in 1978, this movie marked the beginning of "Hollywood North", the major start to the development of a massive film production business in Vancouver and other parts of the province of British Columbia, in Canada. Since then hundreds of "American" movies have been filmed in the Canadian province.

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!!!!ANIMAL ABUSE IS NOT COOL!!!!

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Sacrifice a chicken in my honor.

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A racoon gave me a hummer once.

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How did you find out about this? Are there public records?

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Dependingon why an animal is killed and how is very much where I find amny a fault. Sport/trophy hunters are very much in the class of morons in my book. People who hunt for the food because they need the extra food to feed their family is one thing else. If you wish to be very open about abuse and mistreatment of animals here are are a few items. VEAL comes from calfs fed milk only and are forced to stand in a stall unable to move, and have muscles so weak they can barley stand, They have chronic diarrhea and are forced to stand in all day long often causing their hoves to rot. (I have been to veal farms). Animal abuse is found in all walks of human life if you look for it, but we have sealed off our feeling for animals to make humans that much better when we are not. Humans my be the most intelligent race on earth, but I do not think we are the smartest. No other form of life on this planet destroyes its home the way we do and think it is ok. So any one that thinks killing or hurting animals for fun is ok is a a-hole.
"NOTHING IS FORGOTTEN, NOTHING IS EVER FORGOTTEN" ROBIN (ROBIN HOOD) OF LOXLEY
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And, of course, you won't mind supplying a cite for your information, will you? I mean, that guy must've driven like a wild man, because he had to cover about 1000 miles to get to a place where he had no jurisdiction...

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I think the raccoon scene was filmed in the studio in L.A. I'm still curious, though, are there public records about this incident? its the kind of thing that hurts a person's reputation in a big way. And without records, I'm inclined to assume its a rumor. nevertheless, you do see harsh treatment of animals in this guy's films quite a bit. A horse gets tipped over, for instnace, in Year of the Gun. Camels and goats fight each other in the Horsemen. Scott Glenn eats a lobster which is still alive in The Challenge. These could be real animals, I guess. they could be "movie magic" too.

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LOUD NOISES!!



im sorry, it felt like the only logical thing to say after that trash.
i dont see why shey should be able to stop them killing animals for movies, as long as they eat them as not to waste the meat.
some of the old cannibal holocaust etc type movies had animal slaughter.

"When There Is No More Room In Hell, The Dead, Will Walk The Earth."

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i dont see why shey should be able to stop them killing animals for movies, as long as they eat them as not to waste the meat.


That argument is viable only if the animals are killed humanely. I don't see how anyone could possibly justify animal torture for entertainment purposes.

And while we're at it, sea turtles are an endangered species, so I would consider the killing of one for a film to be unconscionable.

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Take a look at the exploitation gore flick Cannibal Holocaust.. While the human eating scenes are fake, they kill, gut(with a a machete) and eat a live wild sea turtle on camera. Don't see you whining about that.. just some damn screen raised racoon.
You know what.. if I raise an animal to use on camera, and it's mine and someone wants to kill it on screen. Too bad.. Ive killed and eaten the chickens, and cattle I've raised. So what If I choose to film it. It's what I raised it for. It's not like they grabbed some beast from the wild and beat it to death. By the way for facts sake.. The racoon killing is an URBAN LEGEND, get over it.

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So what is your argument in the end-- that the story is fake and therefore not a concern, or that your owning a living creature gives you the right to torture it?

Everyone draws different distinctions as to when it is appropriate to take life-- most of the world population thinks it appropriate to take life for food, for instance-- but if you think you can actually "own" another living creature to the extent that you have full moral absolution and the right to do anything to that creature, I pity your stultifying lack of ethical and/or spiritual imagination.

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Listen, gang - cruelty to animals is neither funny nor intertaining; that goes for cruelty in any form.

As for what Man is doing to the Earth, there's a certain level of hypocrisy in that, when one thinks it all the way through. This planet has survived a lot of sh*t - it's been open for business for billions of years, and it will be here long after Man (and all his Evil) have passed into history. When people start yapping about saving the planet, they're really yapping about saving Man. That ought to make more sense, but somehow condemning Man to save Man (by rescuing the Earth) ends up only as the paradox it is. So if you're keen on nature, and want the Earth to thrive, maybe you should be out planning some way to get rid of mankind entirely. Otherwise, be honest about your motives - save humanity by saving the Earth.

And if you really want something to bitch about, go check out The Men Behind the Sun. There's a poor little kittycat that needs your complaining...

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