How Much Incest


Exactly how much incest is in this and how far do they go? Just wondering?

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In the first show, he sucks her boobs, which aren't visible, and she rubs her hand over his pants.
In the second shot, he takes off her dress but they don't do anything and she isn't naked.
Forget incest, this movie overall isn't interesting and doesn't even make any sense. Watch it if you are into Bertolucci otherwise avoid it.

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Not much. It seemed to be more of multi-party a love/hate/love/repulsive relationship between Clayburn, the boy's real father, the boy's step-father, and the boy himself. The 'forbidden love" aspect probably was more to sell tickets than to tell the story.

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Bertolucci's main interest here is in NOT telling a logical story. He is flighty, flaky, momentarily amused, and not into incest-exploitation at all. Therefore, those looking for shocking asides will be disappointed. The film's ambiance, its mood, and the dreamily-disconnected desire to examine the past vs. the present is stunning all on its own.

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I just saw the film and totally agree. The incest is hardly in it. It IS necessary to the story but it's not exploitive at all. Also the kid was only 17 and I think, even in Italy, there are laws against getting TOO explicit with a boy that young.

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Well, about that...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1979/11/08/mystifying-scenes-of-motherhood-in-bertoluccis-luna/8f30c1ec-bc94-4756-a3e8-6842c4495c9c/

"Later, facing his same old problem of a story continuity that somehow seems to be going nowhere, Bertolucci inserts another sensation. Mom drags son into a bedchamber and begins murmuring such tender endearments as, 'Now prove you're a man . . . I didn't want to be touching him (i.e., a recently ditched suitor), I wanted to be touching you . . . My baby, my baby, your back is so soft' . . .

Clayburgh's solicitude for Barry may have been the only thing that saved this whatsis of a sex scene from degenerating any further than it does. At a press conference following the film's showing at the New York Film Festival, Bertolucci said that he was prepared to let his Magic Moment go as far as the actors were able to take it. In a separate press conference, Clayburgh confessed that she never had any intention of subjecting the kid to consummate provocation."

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There's two scenes of them kissing in addition to the scene where she rubs his crotch.

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I saw the uncut version of the movie some years ago and Caterina does give her son a HJ--shocking for it's time for sure, but that was it.

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There is a "masturbation scene", which is more of a petting scene, where Jill Clayburgh's character is rubbing up and down the front of his pants while Matthew Barry's character is lying down on a couch, and he is sucking on one of Clayburgh's breasts, and it is hard to see the breast.

Later in the film, there is a kissing scene at a railroad crossing, while a freight train goes by.

Still later in the film, the mother and son are kissing in a hotel bedroom, and Clayburgh takes off Barry's shirt. The mother places her son's head at the front of her panties as she is lying on the bed, with the son's face looking away from her. She holds her son's head in place there, as Clayburgh's character achieves an intense orgasm.

No sexual intercourse of any kind takes place during this scene, but some people may find this scene very erotic nonetheless.

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