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aren't any christians offended by this movie?


I am an atheist and I LMFAO while watching this movie. But the main reason for me to laugh this movie is that it showed christianism (not jesus maybe but certainly christians) as a bunch of sheeps who dont have any individual thinks.

So I think if I was a christian I would get pissed off. So didnt you?

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I suppose most of the world doesn't take attacks on Christianism seriously. I don't know anyone who knows what Christianism is, and I consider myself to be reasonably well educated and went to a Church of England school. Equally, who can say whether a bunch of sheeps are capable of thinks? A think is a very rare and subtle, almost esoteric notion known to very few. In fact, like Christianism, I suspect you alone are the only person who knows what a think is.

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I believe if the sheeps could think, a whole herd would not follow one sheep which jumps out from a cliff...

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It's not just threatening to Christianity. It pokes fun indirectly at all three of the canon-based monotheisms for the spurious way in which real historical figures (Muhammed, Yeshua) but also by extension, non-historical figures (Moses, Abraham) have been worshipped over the centuries.

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So I think if I was a christian I would get pissed off. So didnt you?
Not at all. It's like being offended by "The Jerk" because you're white. If this is what you got from the movie:

I am an atheist and I LMFAO while watching this movie. But the main reason for me to laugh this movie is that it showed christianism (not jesus maybe but certainly christians) as a bunch of sheeps who dont have any individual thinks.
Then you're clearly looking for reasons to make fun of other people's beliefs.

What's funny about the movie is how absurd it is. They make it seem like everyone at the time had heard about a Messiah and spent all of their time trying to figure out who it was. It seems like a semi reasonable way to think about what had happened, but presented in a very funny way. The humor isn't in making fun of someone, it's the mix of the absurd and the rational and in the case of "Life of Brian" with some well placed anachronisms mixed in as well.

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It's "sheep", not "sheeps". And it's "Christianity", not "Christianism"

If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake.

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You know I'm right.



If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake.

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You heard me. So I made my point.



If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake.

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No, that the correct term is "sheep" and "Christianity".



If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake.

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You won't get the last word of this thread. Try me.




If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake.

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Me"thinks" that user-153 effectively ended this one, though his irony was missed by you sheeps...

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"Sheep"



If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake.

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Oh dear, here comes another irony-free zone.

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U mad bro?



If God exists, why did he make me an atheist? That's his first mistake. That and the talking snake.

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"If God exists, why did he make me an atheist?"

He didn't. You made yourself an atheist. He doesn't force you to believe or deny anything you don't want to - he gave you freedom to choose your faith, whether it's 'something' or 'nothingness'.

You have the freedom to be wrong - that's a great mercy. What would you think about a Creator that FORCES people to believe or know things they don't want to or are not ready to believe or know?

Not a very merciful one.

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'What would you think about a Creator that FORCES people to believe or know things they don't want to or are not ready to believe or know?'

The same thing I think about a creator who punishes his creation forever for not believing he's real. He's a monster.

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The snake is cool, I hear he drives a vintage Bentley and intimidates his houseplants and his husband is the angel who guarded Paradise with the flaming sword. They also stopped the Apocalypse.

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Well said, slyle.


How do the angels get to sleep when the Devil leaves his porch light on?

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Was I offended? Damn right I was. I got the hell out of that f**ing theater!

And when the manager wouldn't give us our money back, my bible study group beat him to death with our bibles!

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You didn't just stone him? Hmmmm


How do the angels get to sleep when the Devil leaves his porch light on?

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Some of the women had forgotten their beards.

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Ahhh

How do the angels get to sleep when the Devil leaves his porch light on?

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The one bit I do find offensive is the crucifixion scene which is in very bad taste,

"a bunch of sheeps who dont have any individual thinks." [sic]

Plenty of atheists are sheep as well. Some don't believe, because it's unfashionable to do so, and people would make fun of them if they did.


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It's not "sci-fi", it's SF!

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No Christians or sheep were harmed in the making of this film.

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The movie makes fun of people that get so caught up in literal meaning that they completely miss the point. Which you've effectively demonstrated. So it's not just a christian problem.

It'll take more than condiments to foil my brilliant plan!

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I am a Christian and I thought this film was amusing. I have long been a huge fan of Monty Python and their warped sense of humor!

But can you imagine what would happen if something made a film like this involving ISLAM?

There would be bloody rioting in the streets of half-a-dozen arab capitols, and they'd be demanding the beheading of the director, producers, and all actors & actresses appearing therein!

Christians, on the other hand, have a sense of humor.

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You make a fair point, Dumpington, then ruin it with your last sentence.

Some do, some don't. Some Muslims do too, believe it or not. Plenty of Christians didn't when the film came out. The last laugh is now on them as it is still immensely popular (voted no.1 funniest film ever in a recent UK poll, for example). Those involved have certainly earned their 30 pieces of silver.

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I thought the silliest parodies were the Judean Peoples Front gag which satirized all leftist activist groups. Plus the folks were all Jewish so doesn't it make more fun of Jews than Christians? The sermon on the mount scene was pretty benign to Jesus/Christians and I didn't recall a real makingfunofChristians aspect to it. The Romans were a target but since they are extinct so what. On and people with a lisp, bit of bad taste there PC wise....

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Yes, and people with big noses. Hilarious!

Hang on, I've got a big nose. This is outrageous! BAN THIS OFFENSIVE FILM!!!

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Well, the film certainly doesn't make fun of Jesus Christ, whether you view him as the Literal Incarnation Of God or simply as an historical prophet/social commentator. Brian is clearly not meant to be Jesus, as the scenes at the Nativity and the Sermon On The Mount obviously show. The key point to be made here is that there is a big difference between blasphemy, which is an attack on, or irreverance for a religion or deity, and heresy, which is an attack on established church doctrine. I know the two can be easily confused, since for many people what the established church teaches is viewed as being the factual basis for their own beliefs. However, with Christianity at any rate, official dogma is often at odds with what is actually written in the scriptures, and you frequently find people misquoting or misinterpreting the Bible, especially the words of Christ himself, to justify some kind of bigoted or violent agenda. Whilst I'm not a Christian myself, I know many people who are and they are themselves appalled at the way the organisation of their religion has caused so much damage to society, both historically and in the modern world.

In that sense, 'Life Of Brian' is clearly heretical, since it attacks the church, and the way in which people have constantly and hysterically latched onto anyone they believe is able to provide the 'ultimate answer'. John Cleese has been very frank about this in interviews, when he has stated that he believes the basic message of the film is 'to think it out for yourself'. In other words, read the Bible, make your own decisions and don't unquestioningly assume that what the man in the pulpit or in Rome is telling you is the undisputed truth. That is how the church has retained its control over the centuries, by denying people the right to read the scriptures in their own language, by the selling of indulgences, by giving priests the power of absolution and by the concept of papal infallibility. Once you strip away the dogma that people like Thomas Aquinas and the Councils Of Nicea imposed on the faith, you find a simple and humane philsophy. That's what the film is trying to suggest, and by denying the churches authority to make those decisions on your behalf, it certainly might have offended the religious establishment. But not, I would suggest, any Christians who have some historical perspective and some power of critical thinking.

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For what's it's worth, from this Christian, you, sir, get...



Well-stated, well-explained.



"I cry because others are stupid and it makes me sad."

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I'm a Lutheran myself and think Monty Python are one of the greatest comedy troupes in history along with the Marx Brothers and the Three Stooges. The film is meant to be a satire, plain and simple.

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i've never understood how any christian could be offended by this movie ... it doesn't say one negative thing about the teachings of christ, it doesn't mock christ as a teacher, preacher, or what-have-you, and when christ is portrayed directly in the movie, it is done so respectfully and straightforward ... at his birth there are halos all around, a holy shining light, and of course the star that led the three magi there ... at the sermon on the mount, he is portrayed as standing there preaching, nothing more, nothing less ... the actor portraying him isn't smirking, crossing his eyes, saying it in a funny voice, etc ... he is delivering the lines flat-out sincerely ... the only mention of the dialogue made at this point is by the people in the back who can't hear clearly because apparently jesus wasn't speaking loud enough and because big-nose wouldn't quiet down ...

other than the last little bit at the sermon on the mount, there is nothing about christianity that is mocked at all ... there is one part at the stoning when a jewish law that one should not utter the name 'jehovah' aloud is given a bit of a send up as various people are stoned but it's not much ...

if anything the movie is a joke about the historical time period, not about the religion of the time ...

frankly, considering the ridiculous nature not to mention inaccurate even by biblical standards of most of the 'religious' films hollywood has put out thru the years, the christians and others should be up in arms about them, not this which as mentioned mocks the roman empire far more than any religious group ...

and of course, there's always the question of just because some group doesn't like something i've never figured out why that makes it their right to make sure i don't see it or read it ... frankly, it's none of their damn business what i see or read so keep your freakin' nose out of my business you wankers!!

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other than the last little bit at the sermon on the mount, there is nothing about christianity that is mocked at all ... there is one part at the stoning when a jewish law that one should not utter the name 'jehovah' aloud is given a bit of a send up as various people are stoned but it's not much ...

if anything the movie is a joke about the historical time period, not about the religion of the time ...

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but notice after sermon on mount we hear not a peep out of Jesus as the focus shifts to the unwilling Brian, and the message is the absurdity of Jesus saying FOLLOW ME and they don't and Brian saying F|CK OFF but they won't.

we see from Wanda that Cleese is very much into Nietzsche and LOB talks to his philosophies on Herd Mentality while our anti-hero Brian keeps preaching "you don't need anyone, you can work it out yourself".

so as well as satire about the HISTORICAL time period it was intended to be a satire on the 1970s time period - with copious references to the Greer small f femmo movement, but with no idea it would shape the whole American Beauty by 1999.

so we have to add "prophetic satire on the FUTURE time period" [particularly that of GWBush, with God on Our Side]

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I certainly hope so!

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