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Hindsight is 20/20


I did my usual annual "watch Alien" marathon again. I watch it, watch the deleted scenes and then I watch it with Ridley Scott's commentary.

The characters have come to mean so much to me. I always want them to survive. And I do my usual "if only" routine. If only they had done certain things they would have lived.

It's all 20/20 hindsight. The characters have been called "truck drivers in space." They loaded up their cargo, in this instance it was ore, and spent months in hypersleep while hauling it back to Earth

Captain Dallas was just following Company orders and seemed to have no imagination. He didn't think beyond the regulations that he had to follow. To be fair, humans had probably never encountered any alien species, let alone dangerous ones, before. He was just investigating a signal that might indicate intelligent life.

But if I had been in his place, I would have been a lot more careful. After he leaves the ship to investigate, only THEN does Ripley (who is at least thinking outside the box) put the transmission through for Muthr to decipher it. It's too late for Dallas and the others when Ripley finds out that it is a warning.
If I were Captain I would have done that before I went out to investigate. They did have some time before they arrived at LV 426.

After seeing the long dead space traveler, you think Dallas would have figured that the message was an old one and there was no one to "rescue". He should never have allowed Kane to enter that chamber. There was clearly no one alive to greet them or ask for help.
He disregarded protocols and brought a deadly entity aboard. But after the initial shock he didn't do more than sit around listening to classical music. Again, if I was the Captain, I would have been in sickbay keeping an eye on Kane. Just WHAT was that dark spot on the monitor? He was so quick to believe Ash's explanation. I would have had my engineers run a diagnostic on the auto doc to see if the "spot" was an equipment problem or something the alien put down Kane's throat.
It just seems that Dallas could not be bothered. He brings a hostile organism onboard and then goes to listen to music!
After the shocking chest burster scene, why did the crew underestimate the alien's size? I know they weren't scientists, but they should have understood basic biology. Humans take nine months to gestate and years to grow to adulthood. Dogs and cats gestate faster and are full grown in months. Insects grow to maturity in days.
Didn't it occur to them that a creature who is "born" after 24 hours might grow even more rapidly?

When Brett found the skin which the alien shed, why didn't he run back to the others and say, "I think this thing has grown!!"
It was a whole new ballgame. They were now hunting a larger creature.

It appears that humans had never encountered any alien species before, so the crew was in the dark. But still, their naivete is astounding.

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Captain Dallas was just following Company orders and seemed to have no imagination. He didn't think beyond the regulations that he had to follow. To be fair, humans had probably never encountered any alien species, let alone dangerous ones, before. He was just investigating a signal that might indicate intelligent life.

I have a suspicion they've seen alien life before just non of intelligence yet. The crew especially brett and parker acted like Woopty Doo I want to go home, but this may have also been due to their belief that the signal was a non alien phenomenon. I have to think they've ran into at least plant and bactieria life at the very least considering how unshocked they were by the signal.

" If I were Captain I would have done that before I went out to investigate. They did have some time before they arrived at LV 426."
Agreed but Dallas was in follow orders yes man at this point already so he'd still have investigated but he'd have been alot more careful. Which he should have been at the begining.


"After seeing the long dead space traveler, you think Dallas would have figured that the message was an old one and there was no one to "rescue". He should never have allowed Kane to enter that chamber. There was clearly no one alive to greet them or ask for help."

It was never a rescue, it was always an investigation for the science department, being executed by truckers.


"It appears that humans had never encountered any alien species before, so the crew was in the dark. But still, their naivete is astounding. "

At least not hostile alien life that can use humans as incubators and violently take out the entire crew in 24 hours.

To be fair though the crew of the nastromo at least acted a little concerened and had some protocol were every one was expected to be in the airlock for 24 hours for decontamination. In promethious the "scientists" flat out removes their helments and breath all that fresh air with no regard for airborn pathogens.

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"I have to think they've ran into at least plant and bactieria life at the very least considering how unshocked they were by the signal."

So you think they've rescued plants and bacteria before because the plants were using a distress beacon?

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No but they weren't doing the OMG theirs alien life out there like we (present civilization) would be doing as news of alien life would be shocking to us. My guess is mankind had already seen plenty of plant/bacteria life and didn't seemed kind of "meh". They even seemed kind of "meh" at hearing an alien acustical beacon as if they were already used to hearing occasional alien signals from distant galaxies was already fairly routine even if they haden't encountered intelligent life yet.

The crew pretty much was doing the "big deal I want to go home" stance apon hearing about possible intelligent life. (nice straw man by the way).

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"It was never a rescue, it was always an investigation for the science department, being executed by truckers. "

Thats very true , I think Dallas should have turned round an packed up as soon as he saw the ship , (not the traveller ), noted the co-ordinates and called in the cavalry

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Yea I'd have been "fuck it I'm out" on seeing the ship alone.

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"Didn't it occur to them that a creature who is "born" after 24 hours might grow even more rapidly? "
From 6 inch to 8 foot in a day? no , they wouldnt think that , in fact theres another thread with people saying that is stupid & unrealistic etc.

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Do you mean that it "is stupid and unrealistic" for a creature to grow from 6 inches to 8 feet in a day? I agree with that. But this is science fiction, so all bets are off. Nothing is "unrealistic".

Except for Ash, none of them were Science Officers. But I think they all took basic science courses while in school. A human takes 9 months to gestate and doesn't reach his full adult size until about the age of sixteen. Dogs and cats gestate in a few months and achieve adult size in less than a year with the exception of some giant breeds of dogs. The list goes on. Generally the quicker the gestation period, the faster the animal grows.

Obviously we have no animal on earth which grows as fast as the alien species. But if I encountered a species that grew from embryo to fetus and was born in 24 hours, even with my limited scientific knowledge, I would assume that the species in question would grow rapidly to adulthood.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and the crew was totally blindsided by the unexpected. But how could they think they'd be hunting a creature the size of a cat when it grew from an egg and was hatched in 24 hours? If not an 8 foot creature, then surely it would have grown faster than any earth animal.

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Well a chicken comes from an egg, and dosent get much bigger than a cat.
I guess this alien has the baby to adult size ratio of a crocodile - but it takes the croc , i dunno , 30 years to do it?
Also this Alien dosent have much to eat.
See other thread for physics , science , power-to-weight , calorific intake etc.

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Also, finding the dead space jockey may have come across like finding a pharaohs tomb. Who knows what treasures lay within that ship, and the crew of the Nostromo would have salvage rights.
So even with hindsight, maybe not such a stupid idea to go looking.

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well, i dont know if the apparently evil Weyland wutani company would see it that way.




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As Ripley says you're entitled to a share

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In the novel Kane is interested in finding diamonds in the derelict.

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True

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