STILL A GREAT SHOW


keep up the good works guys.

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Yes it's a great show but Kevin has to go. I loved Steve and I know he won't ever come back but Kevin doesn't what he is doing. He doesn't get his hands dirty and when he does he doesn't know what he is doing. I don't know how Roger/Norm/Tom/Rich can stand him.

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Actually, I like Kevin. His first few episodes he looked like a deer in the headlights. But since then has gotten pretty good. Give him time, is all I can say.

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I've tried watching Kevin, but it doesn't work, he's terrible. I miss Steve :-(
Even Bob Vila was better than Kevin. Bob was on the first show I saw, since then i've been hooked on TOH.




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I have to say, Bob WAS worse than Kevin.

Kevin doesn't pretend to know what he's doing, whereas Bob did. The real hero of the show always was and always will be Norm Abrams. Tom Silva is a seriously knowledgeable guy, too.

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Just to be fair, Kevin is the show's HOST -- not a worker bee.

As for a favorite host -- that would be Steve Thomas. His delivery was always natural and never sounded rehearsed. Kevin is 100% better than during his first season and is still improving

As for Bob Vila, I remember fearing the show might not survive his departure. Steve made it all better with his first episode. He was THAT good.

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still, it's got a great vibe.



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Yes, I learned a lot from this show, but how many times can you watch that guy install a water heater?


Remember the Bigalowe House?

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I've been watching this show from the beginning and I could only agree with the statement when it applies to Norm, Tommy, and Richard. Those three are seriously talented and timeless.

Bob Villa was an obnoxious pseudo-knowitall. Steve was probably the best host, and Kevin is just plain irritating. It's painfully obvious that Kevin is a light-weight amongst the three giants. Plus, his voice is too nasally and he uses very annoying speech patterns and phrases.

There are a few (IMHO) deteriorating trends in this show.

First is the excessive time spent with Roger and the yard/landscaping aspects. It's important, but many of the landscaping jobs are for show (showing off for TOH) and will require unbelievable maintenance efforts going forward. Most jobs will look like crap in a few years, plus, it's This Old House...not This Old Yard. This excessive devotion is impractical for most homeowners and shows what a runaway production you'll get if you hire a silly "landscape architect". UGH!! Give me a break!

Second, the whole tone of the show has shifted from a basically masculine-based show to a rather gay feel, not that there's anything wrong with being gay. It's just that a construction/renovating show like TOH (IMHO) is more appropriately masculine than a "Sewing with Nancy" feel or "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy". Too much emphasis and time is placed on interior decorating, landscape architecture, fabrics, draperies, etc. It's silly.

Lastly, the show has drifted way too far from it's main purpose. The producers spend way too much time on tours, especially non-home construction-based tours. Some episodes will spend over half a 22 minute show on a tour of a library in some city! HUH?? It shouldn't be a travel show. There's also too much emphasis on so-called "green" crap. I'm a big supporter of recycling and conservation but the producers are so over the top that it's more like a religion than a good industry practice. The Austin and New Orleans projects were the worst ever.

I still watch Ask This Old House which is much better now than the original TOH show. Also, New Yankee Workshop is still worth watching although the same idiot producers seem to be spending more time on tours at the beginning of the show than the actual project. Sad to say, but "Hometime" and "Holmes on Homes" are more informative now than TOH.

I'm not saying that these other efforts aren't worthy of air time, but if showing interior decorating, landscaping, gardening, etc. is the purpose, then create appropriate shows for those subjects. Don't ruin an otherwise decent format by trying to do all things.

And it's important to remember that each year new viewers tune in to learn, so complaining that you can only show the same construction practices so many times before it gets boring, isn't a good argument (IMHO). It never hurts for expert professionals like Tommy, Norm, and Richard to constantly reinforce GOOD construction practices to new and old viewers alike. Plus every year, new research and products come out and, better construction techniques and practices are introduced. That's what TOH should get back to

JMHO.

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I missed only the first couple seasons of TOH and agree that Villa was the weakest link. The show does seem to have lost some of its flavor for actually demonstrating construction. It's to be expected on the short out-of-New England projects but even the main projects have become too much of a travel log.

Hopefully, this season will return to heart & sole of TOH even though it's another tear-down project. That's not all bad considering that one of the most popular projects was the Concord barn with Steve Thomas at the helm for the first time. The current project, like in 1989, features the timber frame construction of Tedd Benson so I have high hopes that we'll actually SEE stuff being built.

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>> First is the excessive time spent with
>> Roger and the yard/landscaping aspects

I suspect this is because Tommy & Richard are usually involved with the project house on 'This Old House' and that takes away from the time they can/will spend doing segments for 'Ask...'

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Bob was a camera hogging moron, every second someone else was talking he was nodding and shooting out "Yeah, uh-huh, right, ok..." over and over trying to get them to shut up so he could talk again. I despise the man.

Steve was a dink, didn't like him or his smarmy attitude.

Kevin's cool, he's one of _us_ a regular Joe asked to host the show so we, the other regular Joes can see what it's like to be thrown in with master craftsmen. Hell, the found him because he was ON an episode of 'Ask This Old House'.


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Bob seemed bored with everything in his last seasons. He was rushing things and wanted to get to the point on everything. No small talk with this guy, just show your product and lets wrap this segment up. He was even finishing sentences of the other guy.

Steve sort of had an attitude and seemed a little distant.

Kevin is a little more down to earth, but I think he's getting too polished.

Tom and Rich are fun to watch while Norm just comes and goes. Does he get his hands dirty anymore?

The only part of the show that I really like is the first episode where they get to tour the "before" house. Unfortunately, this part of the show is getting whacked down time-wise.

What I don't like is:

Off site tours that take up half the show. Come on, this stuff could be cut down to sub 4 minute segments.

Extensive, near glacial segments on security systems and home theater equipment. I'm falling asleep!

Lighting experts that take their job to OCD levels. Six separate lighting systems in the kitchen? What's next? A touch sensitive dimmer in the pantry?

The big rush to wrap everything up in the last episode. So much leftover crap to squeeze into 20 something minutes that they almost forget to show the finished product! Geez, sitting through several months of shows and the final "after" house flashes by in the blink of an eye. WTF?!

Before and after commercials that hog up a good 5 minutes of the show. Time for a kitchen run or a potty break.



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I'm really in agreement with everything you wrote, but I do see Norm helping out occasionally. Maybe he would be more involved if that entire fabulous workshop of his were portable. I should add that he HAS built things in the workshop and they were delivered to sites on This Old House.

One thing that never changes: When there's painting or power washing to be done on the exterior of a house, there always seems to be some comment about starting at the top and working on down. WTF, why even mention that, as even a child can tell you that there's almost never a reason to start down below...!

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"Bob was a camera hogging moron, every second someone else was talking he was nodding and shooting out "Yeah, uh-huh, right, ok..." over and over trying to get them to shut up so he could talk again. I despise the man.

Steve was a dink, didn't like him or his smarmy attitude.

Kevin's cool, he's one of _us_ a regular Joe asked to host the show so we, the other regular Joes can see what it's like to be thrown in with master craftsmen. Hell, the found him because he was ON an episode of 'Ask This Old House'."
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I gotta agree with you on Bob Vila and Steve.

However, while Kevin seems like a nice guy, I find him very irritating. His voice is incredibly nasally and he's just a little too animated and "excited" with his narrative. After a few minutes, he gets on my nerves because it comes off as "staged" excitement....phony. I fully realize he supposed to be "upbeat", but IMHO he goes overboard. He'd be better if he toned it down just a bit. (IMHO)

In addition, if you notice, Kevin has to TOUCH everything he sees. Whether he's on some typically irrelevant side tour or examining techniques or products for whatever project, he's got to paw everything. If I was the owner or tour host, I tell him to keep it grubby, idiot hands off of things.

While he was previously not a tv personality, he is now and he should take a few lessons to rid himself of that annoying nasally tone. He's got a cute wife, though.

Of course, JMHO

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