Sid's Death


It's been many years since I watched this, but last night I binged watched the last two episodes of Season two and then the first 2 episodes of season three.

Still gut wrenching to this day, I still hope for a different outcome even though it was filmed over 30 years ago.

Sid & Karen (Michelle&Don) epitomized a normal married couple, while not perfect at the core were solid & grounded.

Wonderful acting and writing all around.

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I 100% agree. I really think the first two episodes of season 3 were Emmy worthy and powerful. Even the scenes where Sid is trapped in his car and emergency responders are trying to get him out of the car are so incredibly realistic.

Some of the finest television ever.

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In the days before spoilers, keeping Don Murray in the opening credits for the first two episodes of season 3 made Sid's death a surprise, too. At the beginning of those episodes, I was like - oh, Murray's still in the credits, so Sid will be paralyzed for a while and then get better. Nope.

In hindsight, if you look at those credits again, you realize that Murray doesn't appear in any of the other credit squares - like with Karen - or in group shots, so that was a tipoff. They didn't have to redo those when he left.

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In the days before spoilers, keeping Don Murray in the opening credits for the first two episodes of season 3 made Sid's death a surprise, too. At the beginning of those episodes, I was like - oh, Murray's still in the credits, so Sid will be paralyzed for a while and then get better. Nope.


IIRC correctly (I was just a kid at the time), TV Guide magazine at the time mailed issues to subscribers on Thursdays for the next week (which began on Saturday for TV Guide then). Those who received it on Thursday, November 20, 1981, would have seen the the ad for the next episode to air after the second episode (Sid's death). The ad for episode 3 ("Aftermath") said "Karen having a breakdown? How long can Karen block out Sid's death?"

Thus, some TV Guide subscribers may have been "spoiled" if they read the next week's TV Guide the day it arrived in their mailboxes.

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Yes what a really shocking and pivotal moment that was for the show. I was huge fan of Don/Sid and would have loved to see him live on but the show got so good without the supervision of daddy around.

Why am I so good at playing bitches? I think it’s because I’m not a bitch.-Bette Davis

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I liked Sid and was sad when he died. I liked Mac also. Karen was lucky to get two good husbands.

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The scene when the family finds out he died had such impact without hearing any dialog from all the actors ... very well done

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Didn't Abby play a role in his death? Not to mention, that was her brother.

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I think Gary had more of a role in Sid'd death (and that caused him to backslide into alcoholism). If I recall correctly, Gary got involved with some shady characters that he thought would be able to enhance Sid's auto dealership. Sid was dubious and politely declined getting into business with these nefarious characters. Sid either found out what these guys were really up to or they wanted to get Sid out of the way so they could deal with Gary directly. Either way, Sid was at odds with these mobsters' agenda, so they screwed with his brakes (or sabotaged his car in some way to kill him.). I think Mac was the assistant district attorney who prosecuted the mobsters who killed Sid, and he and Karen fell in love.

I don't recall correctly if Abby was involved in Sid's death. It is possible that Abby either introduced the mobsters to Gary or that she was just as taken in by their business plans as Gary. Perhaps she urged Sid to get in bed with them. At that time in the series, Abby was obsessed with Gary and Gary was obsessed with Abby. The producers were often coming up with business ideas for Gary and Abby to partner with romance (sex) being the obvious result of the pairing.

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