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Music from Monty Python and The Holy Grail?


Evening all.
Has anybody noticed that the music at the start of this film, is the same as some of the introductory music as Monthy Python and The Holy Grail?

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Good point! But yes, it has been noticed several times before.
Lots of HK flicks from this era has stolen music from western movies (James Bond, Star Wars, Jean-Michel Jarre etc.)

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No, I actually meant the stolen a music was in the ORIGINAL version. Not just in the dub, in the original Chinese version too.

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Here too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMtlAjxSDVc

That's the same what you hear in the Chinese version. Probably you've seen the international version which doesn't have this intro.

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I agree it's bewildering while you're watching the form.

But that's not the only borrowed music in this film. Right before the very first dialogue scene when Jackie's is fishing on the lake, that music is from (I think) a James Bond movie. Or from somewhere else...

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Yup, that's the one. Although the clip is in German, the music is the same.

Yes, it's a good movie from his early serious period. Dragon Fist, Shaolin Wooden Men and this are the three good ones.

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What laws?

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"Lots of HK flicks from this era has stolen music from western movies (James Bond, Star Wars, Jean-Michel Jarre etc.)"

Yeah, I liked those "Jean-Michel Jarre movies" a lot. Check my reviews of them in IMDb.

You probably mean that they used a lot of music that was already used elsewhere before them. Nothing wrong with that, except that it shows a lack of originality, the 'shortcut' mentality, where they don't bother to create their own music, and so on. But it also allows them to focus on the more important aspects, like good kung fu (gong fu?) performances.

And by the way, it's not stealing, when the owner doesn't lose the original, it's either copying or using. And there is nothing unlawful or ethically wrong with that. (Obeying 'legal system' is optional, obeying 'law' is not, figure out the difference before you accuse someone of stealing again)

In any case, it is just a small piece of it (less than 30 seconds or so), and not the whole song. Also, it's slowed down, and not played at full speed. Therefore, it's a bit misleading to talk about it as if it was the whole music.

The only reason why I think it's wrong to use that music, is that it doesn't really fit that scene anyway, and distracts from the action.

And as a last note; "flicks" do not "steal" anyway. I mean, 'flicks' are not people, humans, or even dead legal fictions, like 'persons' (corporations).

Therefore it's utterly stupid and wrong to say that 'flicks stole' something, when 'flicks' can't ever steal anything. They are not capable of making decisions, only humans are. So it follows that only humans can steal.

(And as I said, no stealing happened here - stealing means that the owner has lost a physical object (even a living entity qualifies), because someone has unlawfully and without consent taken it from him/her)

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Does your post have a point (besides stating stealing is O.K.)? I'm not picking at you, I just couldn't find any.

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