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Question about Violet...


Was she supposed to be pregnant at the end? They had a discussion about how to prevent getting pregnant, and when he asked her what was wrong she just looks at him and says, "YOU know." like it was obvious. That's the impression I got anyways. Anybody have any ideas???

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I don't know if Violet was pregnant, but I do know that you aren't the first to ask. So if two people have independently wondered about it, more than a year apart from each other, then maybe?



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I always thought the end to this as well as the end to Lolita were tragic, I really feel for the male characters in both, especially in the end of Lolita when Humbert tells her not to touch him, the heartbreak in his voice when he says, "I'll die if you touch me." just gets me every time. Both men are completely devoted and in love with spoiled petulant children and are both left heartbroken by the girls selfishness. I always wanted to strangle both girls and cuddle both men by the end.

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I couldn't agree more. I didn't really think Dolores really had any feelings for Humbert either, she was already infatuated with Claire if I remember right...
I feel more sorry for Violet then I can for Dolores, Violet obviously cared for Bellocq and was sad to leave him, but I can't help but thinking about what life is going to be like for her being so young and carrying her husbands child. He may not have had the right to take the girl from her mother but if it were me I would have wanted my child. sad sad sad.

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I always thought the end to this as well as the end to Lolita were tragic, I really feel for the male characters in both, especially in the end of Lolita when Humbert tells her not to touch him, the heartbreak in his voice when he says, "I'll die if you touch me." just gets me every time. Both men are completely devoted and in love with spoiled petulant children and are both left heartbroken by the girls selfishness. I always wanted to strangle both girls and cuddle both men by the end.


Wow, what an insanely perversion take you've made on both situations. It's alright to sympathize with the sense of loss Humbert and Bellocq feel, but you can't lose sight of the fact that they are both predators who have victimized the girls they're mooning over. The children in both cases are already severely damaged by their upbringings and so "come on" to the men in a sense, but they are in actually unable to fully comprehend their situations, must less consent to them. Both girls are used and destroyed by these men and there is no other valid interpretation.

Seriously, I can't believe what I've just read. It's scary that people like you exist.

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When I was 13yo I would have loved a mature sexy woman to have come on to me, sheesh no everybody is as staid as you.

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Okay, crazy. It's awesome that you would've loved an act of pedophilia, but not everyone is as sick as you.

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Actually, most thirteen year old boys have this as a fantasy. Doesn't mean it's a good idea in real life, but it's a pretty common fantasy among boys that age.



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Thank you, 1000% agreed! I can't believe this needed stating.

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Both men are completely devoted and in love with spoiled petulant children and are both left heartbroken by the girls selfishness. I always wanted to strangle both girls and cuddle both men by the end.



Are you serious? He was a pedophile. She was just twelve years old, how do you think a twelve year old is suppose to act? Twelve year olds aren't suppose to act like mature adults. They are suppose to to be selfish when it comes to heartbreak and if his heart was broken by a child then he got exactly what he asked for.


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I think she was menstruating, not pregnant.

Cramps can be quite painful and during menstruation women can crave sugar. Violet said she felt ill and then afterwards asked for some chocolate. Then right after Belloq asks whether she knows how to prevent a pregnancy. I think it`s unlikely that he would ask her this if she is in fact pregnant and he was aware of it. The discussion about preventing a pregnancy makes sense in this context since it was now possible for her to do so.

And for those who say they have no sympathy for Lolita...Wow is all I can say. I don`t know if you`ve read the book or are going by one of the movie versions, but all I can say is your interpretation is way off. Humbert Humbert is a classic unreliable narrator, it is his duty to seduce the audience with his flowery prose. What makes Lolita so great is that while he tries to garner sympathy with the audience by portraying himself as a victim he is actually a pedophile describing how he grooms his step-daughter and rapes her repeatedly for years. He`s a monster with a silver-tongue...

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Menstruating - thank you! That's it exactly, THAT's why he said 'how is that different from the last two weeks'. Sorry, I came online to see what people thought, because I kinda figured she was pregnant as well and the conversation about preventing it confused me. But that makes a lot more sense. Good work figuring it out :)

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<< I think she was menstruating, not pregnant. Cramps can be quite painful and during menstruation women can crave sugar. Violet said she felt ill and then afterwards asked for some chocolate. Then right after Belloq asks whether she knows how to prevent a pregnancy. I think it`s unlikely that he would ask her this if she is in fact pregnant and he was aware of it. The discussion about preventing a pregnancy makes sense in this context since it was now possible for her to do so. >>

Yes. When Violet claims she's menstruating, it makes Bellocq wonder if she knows about birth control.

Women don't usually take to bed and down a bottle of brandy when they discover their pregnant. This is more of a medicinal approach to cramps, in the days before Midol.

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Perhaps an idiotic question, but what exactly was 'the way not to become with child' in 1917? Assuming condoms were not common, or were about at all?

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Condoms have been around almost as long as sex has been around, as well as herbal remedies that are supposed to cause abortions, shady doctors willing to perform them and things like that, and there's always the withdraw method.

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I don't think she had access to any contraceptive herbs as long as she stayed at his house. And they didn't use condoms either, otherwise it would make no sense for him to ask her whether she knew how not to become with a child. I think the only contraceptive method she practiced (if any) was to track fertility days.

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She'd just gotten her monthly. She was (in theory) feeling poorly. That's why she wanted the hot chocolate with brandy (very good drink, btw) because the brandy would help with her cramps.

Maybe it's just something that would be obvious to women. I knew EXACTLY what she meant.


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