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interesting subject, bad execution


With the movie “The Island” coming out, I figure it's about time I saw Clonus. It's one of those movies I've heard about but never got around to finally watching.

The concept sounded interesting... people being cloned & used for parts w/ the clones not having a clue w/ what's really going on. The thing is, the movie ended up being heavily flawed. My biggest problem was the security in the Clone Camp. Apparently when it's night time they just outright shut down security cameras & blow the whole budget on gaurds physcially patrolling the area and doing a piss poor job at it.

Hopefully The Island will fix up the huge plot holes.

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I remember somewhat likeing CLONUS when it came out, but back then I was really willing to forgive a film for a lot of flaws if it had good intetions. The movie deserves credit for being the basis of THE ISLAND -- which obviously has a much more professional sheen to the execution than CLONUS could afford.

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professional sheen


usually that just means they've got a bigger budget so they can make things prettier & the audience will over look plot holes.

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I find that comment amusing because it dovetails so perfectly with what I was describing: the idea that content somehow trumps everything else, even bad execution.

It's a mistake to dismiss competent and professional craftsmanship just because it is achieved with money.

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I agree. Look at the recent 3 Star Wars movies. The middle three thrived more on a solid story, the first 3, mostly CGI (which I find far more distracting than product placement).

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I agree. I saw this on MST3K and though they made it hysterical, I could see a good movie struggling to get out. Budgetary limitations and the director's lack of skill ruined it. This could have been a decent film, and if remade by a good director (budget isn't all that matters as "The Island" proved) it could still make for an entertaining film. But then, I think a lot of MST3K films could have been much better than they were if they had better writers/directors or more money. I remember having a correspondance with David Giancola, the guy who directed "Time Chasers", a few years back and he seemed to take the MST-ing of his film with good humor.

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Haven't seen it in thirty years but remembered the most glaring flaw as being the guy playing the clone looked NOTHING like the guy he was cloned from! Why not remake this one with more appropriate casting, instead of constant ripoffs and remakes of movies which don't need remaking?

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Indeed. I don't know why the film industry has such a hard time making good movies about clones. Some fascinating concepts about discrimination, what it means to be human, rights, etc., and yet I don't think I've ever seen a good clone movie. Haven't seen The Island, but Clonus was laughable. The recent Never Let Me Go was shiny, but was as soulless and bland as Cheerios. I don't get it. There've been good movies about robots, especially the humanoid variety. Why do filmmakers have such trouble with clones?

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I agree. The main idea of Clonus is very interesting. On the surface, it looks slightly similar to THX 1138 or Logan's Run. But unlike these movies, the events of Clonus take place in our society and in our time, which makes it so much more interesting. But unfortunately, the execution wasn't that good. The first half within the "clone world" was more or less OK, but the second half with the runaway clone got really stupid.

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