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Finally saw the movie. Question about hash


The authorities in this movie take a very dim view of the attempted smuggling of hash from Turkey. Is this a reflection of a deeply ingrained attitude in Turkish society? Obviously it's illegal, but do Turks really have a heartfelt hate for hash? Is hash connected in any way with the Ottoman (and sectarian) history of Turkey, and is that why the Turkish penal code is so heavy on hash? What I'm asking is whether it's a case of it simply being illegal and end of story, or is there really a deep-seated grudge that post-Ataturk Turkey has with hash?

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I believe it's implicated the harshness on Billy is because he's American and can be used as a huge story for the turkish authorities.

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Yes that makes sense. Although I still think it's strange the Turkish penal code is so strict about it, even if they don't really enforce it.

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To answer your question, hash doesn't really attract a reaction that is anything special.

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OK, thanks for the info. Though I think the Turks are wrong about this because hash can be very special stuff with obvious benefits, even though the movie is an exaggeration. I've been to Turkey and I love it. But still I get the impression it would be a lot less nice if I risked buying hash over there. Even if the punishments aren't as bad as in the movie. There shouldn't be any punishments for hash really.. It is the Near East!

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I don't really have an answer for your question but, (speaking for myself :p) I love hash, and any type of marijuana really, but I would never even think of smoking it in a country like Turkey. Let alone try and smuggle it..

I thought at first though that they were being a bit harsh on Billy because he was American, but then later we come to find out that Max is British.

Put shortly, I was quite confused about this too, lol.

It took nothing away from the film for me though, I've always loved this one. :)



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Early in the film, Tex told Billy the Turks were cracking down on smugglers, so they can show the world they're tough on drugs.








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Compared to Malaysia and Singapore, it's not that bad. Automatic neck breaking in those countries for smuggling

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I traveled to Morocco in the seventies and everybody was smoking hash. I doubt if it was much different in Turkey though I believe Turkey is more known for opium and heroin that it is for hash. Use in the country is common and there is little risk. I remember being offered a bowl of hash at a rug shop. Smuggling drugs out of these countries was and is another matter. This is because of international pressure, especially in the seventies when Nixon started the "War on Drugs". Nixon pressured all these countries to get tough on drug smuggling. In fact it wasn't until 1971 that Turkey outlawed growing opium poppies, which is used to make heroin.

Heroin was and is a problem as it is very addictive. However, most deaths are caused by people getting too strong a dose or using heroin cut with something toxic.

Hash really isn't a big health problem, but up until recently, people thought smoking hash led to harder drugs.

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It's probably a mixed bag of reasons. Foreign/US-driven pressure on countries like Turkey to crack down on drug smuggling -- in the 1970s the near/middle east was a major source of hashish and heroin.

Domestically I can see Turkish law enforcement being selective and opportunistic, cracking down on people when it was advantageous to do so (political enemies, disfavored ethnic groups, etc).

And at least in Lebanon, hashish and opium were cash crops that helped fund sectarian insurgencies and militias in the 1970s and was also surely "taxed" by the Syrian army. I don't know much about who the source would be for kilo-size bricks of hash in the 1970s, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Kurds were somehow involved for similar "cash crop" kinds of reasons, in addition to their ethnic networks being useful for moving product.

I'd guess if you were an ethnic Turk in his 30s with some working class type job and no political affiliation or organized crime membership, hashish use probably wasn't that big of a deal and may even have been kind of endemic and nearly impossible to make much of a dent in it.

Billy was an easy target -- foreigner, young, and moving enough weight to give the cops a gold star that week.

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It kills me how many people are answering this question with only speculation and fantasy. WHY?

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool . . . .

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