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Rate Rainer Werner Fassbinder's Films




Please rate his films you've seen (out of 10, or 4-star system, or 'from best to worst'), post/add your comments, recommendations, etc. Thanks for your participation.

Filmography (features only *):

Querelle (1982) 7/10
Die Sehnsucht der Veronika Voss (Veronika Voss, 1982) 8/10
Lola (1981) 10/10
Lili Marleen (1981) 9/10
"Berlin Alexanderplatz" (1980) 10/10
Die dritte Generation (The Third Generation, 1979)
Die Ehe der Maria Braun (The Marriage of Maria Braun, 1979) 9/10
In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden (In a Year with 13 Moons, 1978) 10/10
Despair (1978) 9/10
Deutschland im Herbst (Germany in Autumn, 1978)
Chinesisches Roulette (Chinese Roulette, 1976) 9/10
Satansbraten (Satan's Brew, 1976) 7/10
Faustrecht der Freiheit (Fox and His Friends, 1975) 9/10
Mutter Küsters' Fahrt zum Himmel (Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven, 1975) 8/10
Angst essen Seele auf (Ali: Fear Eats the Soul, 1974) 10/10
Die bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant (The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, 1972) 8/10
Händler der vier Jahreszeiten (The Merchant of Four Seasons, 1971) 9/10
Warnung vor einer heiligen Nutte (Beware of a Holy Whore, 1971) 8/10
Whity (1971)
Der amerikanische Soldat (The American Soldier, 1970) 7/10
Warum läuft Herr R. Amok? (Why Does Herr R. Run Amok?, 1970; co-d) 9/10
Götter der Pest (Gods of the Plague, 1970)
Katzelmacher (1969) 8/10
Liebe ist kälter als der Tod (Love Is Colder Than Death, 1969) 8/10


* I'm including Berlin Alexanderplatz, to see what's everyone's opinion on the mini-series as a whole.



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a mix of feelings..

Querelle (1982) 5/10
Lili Marleen (1981) 8/10
Despair (1978) 7/10
Bolwieser (TV 1977) 7/10
Chinesisches Roulette (1976) 9/10
Ich will doch nur, daß ihr mich liebt (TV 1976) 6/10
Angst vor der Angst (TV 1975) 8/10
Fontane - Effi Briest (1974) 7/10
Warnung vor einer heiligen Nutte (1971) 4/10
Whity (1971) 5/10
Der amerikanische Soldat (1970) 7/10

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Querelle (1982) - 7/10
Die Sehnsucht der Veronika Voss (Veronika Voss, 1982) - 9/10
Lola (1981) - 10/10
Lili Marleen (1981) - 10/10
"Berlin Alexanderplatz" (1980) - 10/10
Die dritte Generation (The Third Generation, 1979) - 8/10
Die Ehe der Maria Braun (The Marriage of Maria Braun, 1979) - 9/10
Despair (1978) - 8/10
Deutschland im Herbst (Germany in Autumn, 1978, co-d) - 8/10
Faustrecht der Freiheit (Fox and His Friends, 1975) - 8/10
Mutter Küsters' Fahrt zum Himmel (Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven, 1975) - 8/10
Fontane Effi Briest (Effi Briest, 1974) - 8/10
Angst essen Seele auf (Ali: Fear Eats the Soul, 1974) - 9/10
Die bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant (The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, 1972) - 9/10
Händler der vier Jahreszeiten (The Merchant of Four Seasons, 1971) - 8/10
Warnung vor einer heiligen Nutte (Beware of a Holy Whore, 1971) - 8/10
Whity (1971) - 8/10
Der amerikanische Soldat (The American Soldier, 1970) - 8/10
Warum läuft Herr R. Amok? (Why Does Herr R. Run Amok?, 1970, co-d) - 9/10
Götter der Pest (Gods of the Plague, 1970) - 8.5/10
Katzelmacher (1969) - 8/10
Liebe ist kälter als der Tod (Love Is Colder Than Death, 1969) - 7/10


Bonus (TV films and shorts):

Der Stadtstreicher (The City Tramp, 1966, sh) - 7/10
Das Kleine Chaos (The Little Chaos, 1966, sh) - 7/10
Pioniere in Ingolstadt (Pioneers in Ingolstadt, 1971, TV) - 7.5/10
Bremer Freiheit (Bremen Freedom, 1972, TV) - 7/10
Welt am Draht (World on a Wire, 1973, TV) - 7/10
Wie ein Vogel auf dem Draht (Like a Bird on a Wire, 1975, TV, sh*) - 8/10
Angst vor der Angst (Fear of Fear, 1975, TV) - 8/10
Ich will doch nur, daß ihr mich liebt (I Only Want You to Love Me, 1976, TV) - 8/10
Bolwieser (The Stationmaster's Wife, 1977, TV) - 9/10


Note:
Sh* = medium length (30-60 min) in my country.


Silly Trivia:
According to Hanna Schygulla he didn't direct a thing in 'Warum läuft Herr R. Amok?' (yet he's still listed as co-director).


vivaLuis

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C'mon, Miran..."The city tramp" is much better than "Kleine Chaos" (for now they're all I've seen...)
I find it very poetic and moving while kleine chaos is banal...

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C'mon, Miran..."The city tramp" is much better than "Kleine Chaos" (for now they're all I've seen...)


Well, while I do agree it's better (or at least sweeter) I don't agree it's *much* better. Not that much better to warrant an 8/10 in my book anyway (although if I were very generous I might even give it that). It's just a little (very quick) sketch (croquis).
But yes, some very nice touches and it IS moving (and quite cinematic in parts, which I admire).

I find it very poetic and moving while kleine chaos is banal...


Heh, wait 'til you see more Fassbinder. I think you might find many of his films banal (whatever that means here). I'm sure many people do.

BTW, I know a person (FG regular) who tore 'The City Tramp' apart (check his 'comment' at this film's page) and I had to come to film's defense (of course, we didn't get far - ie anywhere - it's hard to explain moving pictures to half-blind people ).


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According to Hanna Schygulla he didn't direct a thing in 'Warum läuft Herr R. Amok?' (yet he's still listed as co-director).
Huh, interesting. Thanks for the heads-up.

Thanks for the rates (same for you Bruno).





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I really like this film. As you can see, it's toward the top of my Fassbinder rankings. No disrespect meant toward Fassy of course.

Ranked list
Also here: http://mubi.com/lists/8123

Tier One
1. Angst vor der Angst /Fear of Fear (1975)
2. Angst essen Seele auf / Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (1974)
3. Bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant, Die / The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (1972)
4. Mutter Küsters’ Fahrt zum Himmel / Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven (1975)
5. Warum läuft Herr R. Amok? / Why Does Herr R. Run Amok? (1970)

Tier Two
6. Chinesisches Roulette /Chinese Roulette (1976)
7. Satansbraten / Satan’s Brew (1976)
8. Martha (1974)
9. Faustrecht der Freiheit / Fox and His Friends (1975)
10. Stadtstreicher, Der / The City Tramp (1966) (short film)
11. Dritte Generation, Die / The Third Generation (1979)
12. In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden / In a Year of 13 Moons (1978)

Tier Three
13. Pioniere in Ingolstadt / Pioneers in Ingolstadt (1971) not in database
14. Ehe der Maria Braun, Die / Marriage of Maria Braun (1979)
15. Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980) TV Series (14 episodes, 1980)
16. Niklashauser Fart, Die/ The Niklashausen Journey (1970)
17. Effi Briest (USA)
18. Warnung vor einer heiligen Nutte / Beware of a Holy Whore (1971)
19. Liebe ist kälter als der Tod / Love Is Colder Than Death (1969)

Tier Four
20. Whity(1971)
21. Despair (1978)
22. Querelle (1982)

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Ali/Angst Essen Seele Auf - 8/10
In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden / In a Year of 13 Moons - 6/10
Faustrecht der Freiheit / Fox and his Friends - 4/10
Satansbraten / Satans Brew - 4/10
Mutter Küsters Fahrt zu Himmel / Mother Küsters goes to heaven - 3/10
Warnung vor einer heiligen Hure / Beware of a holy whore - 3/10
Die bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant / The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant - 2/10
Querelle - 2/10
Die Ehe der Maria Braun - The Marriage of Maria Braun - 0/10
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"Die Ehe der Maria Braun (The Marriage of Maria Braun, 1979) 9 "

Really?
That still might be the worst film I have ever seen. Surprised people rank it that highly.
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Liebe ist Kalter als der Tod 6/10
Katzelmacher 7/10
Gotter der Pest 5/10
Warum Lauft Herr R. Amok? 8/10
Rio das Mortas 3/10
Whity 3/10
Die Niklashauser Fahrt 5/10
Warnung einer heiligen Nutte 9/10
Der Amerikanische Soldat 6/10
Pioniere in Ingolstadt 5/10
Der Handler der vier Jahreszeiten 9/10
Die Bitteren Tranen der Petra van Kant 9/10
Martha 6/10
Ali: Angst essen seele auf 9/10
Fontane Effi Briest 9/10
Faustrech der Freiheit 8/10
Mutter Kusters fahrt zum Himmel 9/10
Angst vor der Angst 9/10
Satansbrauten 8/10
Chinesisches Roulette 5/10
Bolweister (Stationmaster's wife) 8/10
Das ehe der Marie Braun 9/10
In einem Jahren mit 13 monden 10/10
Berlin Alexanderplatz 10/10
Lili Marleen 4/10
Lola 9/10
Der Sehnsuch der Veronika Voss 9/10
Querelle 3/10

Think I've seen too much R.W. Fassbinder.

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"Whity 3/10 "

Why is this one so low on your list? Just saw it, and found it surprisingly watchable, and certainly better than some of the "mayor" Fassbinders.
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1-The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant 10/10
2-Berlin Alexanderplatz 10/10
3-Satan's Brew 10/10
4-World on a Wire 10/10
5-The Marriage of Maria Braun 10/10
6-Effi Briest 9/10
7-In a Year of 13 Moons 9/10
8-The American Soldier 9/10
9-Why Does Herr R. Run Amok? 9/10
10-Mother Kusters goes to heaven 9/10
11-Fear Eats the Soul 9/10
12-Martha 9/10
13-Lola 9/10
14-Beware of a Holy Whore 8/10
15-Fear of Fear 8/10
16-Whity 8/10
17-Rio Das Mortes 7/10
18-Chinese Roulette 7/10
19-Katzelmacher 7/10
20-Gods of the Plague 7/10
21-Love is Colder than Death 7/10
22-Fox and His Friends 7/10
23-The Merchant of Four Seasons 5/10
24-The Niklashausen Journey 4/10

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Out of four stars:

****
Angst essen Seele auf (Ali: Fear Eats the Soul, 1974)
Faustrecht der Freiheit (Fox and His Friends, 1975)
"Berlin Alexanderplatz" (1980)
In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden (In a Year with 13 Moons, 1978)

***½
Satansbraten (Satan's Brew, 1976)
Angst vor der Angst Fear of Fear (TV 1975)
Katzelmacher (1969)
Die dritte Generation (The Third Generation, 1979)
Die Ehe der Maria Braun (The Marriage of Maria Braun, 1979)
Warum läuft Herr R. Amok? (Why Does Herr R. Run Amok?, 1970; co-d)

***
Lola (1981)
Die Sehnsucht der Veronika Voss (Veronika Voss, 1982)
World on a Wire (1973)
Lili Marleen (1981)
Martha (1974)
Mutter Küsters' Fahrt zum Himmel (Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven, 1975)
Die bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant (The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, 1972)
Liebe ist kälter als der Tod (Love Is Colder Than Death, 1969)
Chinesisches Roulette (Chinese Roulette, 1976)
Fontane Effi Briest (Effi Briest, 1974)
Götter der Pest (Gods of the Plague, 1970)
Despair (1978)

**½
Händler der vier Jahreszeiten (The Merchant of Four Seasons, 1971)
Warnung vor einer heiligen Nutte (Beware of a Holy Whore, 1971)
Der amerikanische Soldat (The American Soldier, 1970)

**
Querelle (1982)

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Anybody know where I can find 'Satan's Brew', 'Effi Brest', or Fassbinder's shorts?

I've been obsessed with him for the past year, but am having trouble finding all of his flicks.

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Anybody know where I can find 'Satan's Brew', 'Effi Brest', or Fassbinder's shorts?


Well, it's been years since you asked this. Have you found any since then?
Effi Briest (and some others, too) is on YT right now (June 2013). With Eng subs to boot. Just watched it, the video quality is very good.

I guess you better hurry. One never knows when films disappear from there.

Good luck!

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Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980) 10/10 I watched the fifteen and a half hour television mini-series and I could not find one wasted minute!

"Can I ask a dumb question?"
"Better than anyone I know!"

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I actually consider Fassbinder one of my favourite directors, despite the low ratings.

Querelle 4/10
Lili Marleen 4/10
Die Ehe der Maria Braun 4/10
Satansbraten 3/10
Ich will doch nur, daß ihr mich liebt 8/10
Angst vor der Angst 6/10
Faustrecht der Freiheit 8/10
Martha 6/10
Angst essen Seele auf 8/10
Die bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant 7/10
Warnung vor einer heiligen Nutte 5/10
Warum läuft Herr R. Amok? 7/10
Katzelmacher (1969) 4/10

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Out of the ones I've seen:


The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant (1972) 10/10
Veronika Voss (1982) 10/10
Martha (1974) 10/10
Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven (1975) 10/10
Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (1974) 10/10
The Merchant of Four Seasons (1971) 8/10
Chinese Roulette (1976) 7/10
The Marriage of Maria Braun (1979) 7/10
I Only Want You to Love Me (1976) 6/10
Fox and His Friends (1975) 6/10
Satan's Brew (1976) 6/10
Beware of a Holy Whore (1971) 5/10
Fear of Fear (1975) 5/10
In a Year with 13 Moons (1978) 4/10
Lola (1981) 4/10
Love Is Colder Than Death (1969) 4/10
The American Soldier (1970) 4/10

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Usually I hate ranking films but RWF is the man so what the heck. Did this quickly. Maybe I'm too tough on some.

Love is Colder than Death--6/10
Katzelmacher--6/10
Gods of the Plague--9/10
Why Does Herr R Run Amok--7/10
American Soldier--6/10
Nicklashausen Journey--7/10
Rio das Mortes--2/10
Pioneers in Ingolstadt--5/10
Whity--6/10
Beware of a Holy Whore--7/10
Merchant of Four Seasons--8/10
Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant--10/10
Bremen Freedom--7/10
Jail Bait--9/10
World on a Wire--8/10
Ali: Fear Eats the Soul--10/10
Martha--4/10
Effi Briest--7/10
Fox and his Friends--8/10
Mother Kusters Trip to Heaven--6/10
Fear of Fear--8/10
I Only Want You to Love Me--8/10
Satans Brew--8/10
Chinese Roulette--6/10
Stationmasters Wife--5/10
Germany in Autumn--8/10
Despair--5/10
In a Year with 13 Moons--9/10
The Marriage of Maria Braun--10/10
Third Generation--6/10
Berlin Alexanderplatz--10/10
Lili Marleen--6/10
Theater in Trance--7/10
Lola--10/10
Veronica Voss--8/10
Querelle--7/10

Bonus:
Baal--10/10 (1969, directed by Volker Schlondorff, starring RWF as Baal, unbelievably great)

And to reply to someone's comment re Herr R: Hanna Schygulla and others have said that RWF directed only the scenes that Hanna appeared in, hence his co-directing credit.

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