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The original cut of this film was around 50 minutes longer and the cut footage concerns efforts by the Russions to reach the submarine and steal it before the US navy reaches it. It is argued that the studio wanted to excise the conservative content which would have been disliked by the liberal media of the time. However this also reduced the tension of the film although it is still an excellent movie in my view. I womder whether we will ever see the release of an extended version.

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I don't think I've ever heard of this. Sounds like a good idea to have skipped that subplot of the movie. It had enough tension already IMO.

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Interesting! thanks for posting! That would of made the movie extra tense! Watching it now on DVD, its great so glad I bought it!

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It really needed to include the Russian sub footage and storyline in my opinion. You can't just leave all that out and ignore that there is a Russian sub sinking U.S. subs near a large Naval base. LOL I mean seriously this was during the cold war and what would happen if that even happened now, the sh.. would hit the fan. I'm not one for remakes but they should definitely remake this and make it lead into a full on nuclear war. Imagine how neat that would be. As soon as they rescue Heston and his boys, the cold war ends and WW3 begins. Or almost begins, maybe have his character help stop it. Or bring in Jack Ryan or Ethan Hunt. Yeah it's a crazy idea inside my head but it would be great if it was done right.

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Im not sure what movie you are thinking this is. The American Sub, the Neptune was struck in a collusion with a Norweigen freigther, a civilian ship. There were no bad guys in this film it was a basic disaster film with a US Navy twist to highlight the new DSRV.

If you look at the charts the Neptune settles into a canyon off the shore of NJ/NY a few miles out to sea. This film never had a cold war edge to it, it was just the US Navy rescuing one of its own after a mid sea accident while the Neptune was steaming home.

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I don't think my original post. This film had a cold war edge it is a fact. The sub plot, around 50 minutes of film, simply ended on the cutting room floor. Studio leftists were unwilling to have anti communist sentiments. The cuts enraged Heston for political reasons and director Greene for reasons of artistic integrity. Apart reading about this footage in Heston's autobiography In the Arena I remember hearing about it in a radio programme at the time of the film's release.

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Of course, because no other movies in the late 70s had any anti-communist sentiments (eyeroll)...

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That would have been interesting, but one of the released cut's flaws is that it still needed to be trimmed by 5-10 minutes. Some of the scenes were lethargically directed and I found myself getting anxious for them to end.

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It is clear that this movie was delayed for some time after it was finished and it's also clear that there was footage left on the cutting room, especially Rosemary Forsyth as Heston's wife who in the final cut is reduced to just a fifteen second scene on the tennis court getting word the sub is down (she had even gone on "Match Game" in March 1977 mentioning she'd just finished doing this film and I doubt that scene at the court represented her entire work). But I really don't see any indication that they actually filmed a Russian subplot in the film unless it took up time before the scenes of the US Navy reaching the Neptune.

Unfortunately, Heston's diary "The Actor's Life" which was published in 1978, cuts off at the end of 1976 while he was filming "Gray Lady Down" and doesn't shed light on what else was filmed but cut. They apparently started filming before Ronny Cox was cast as the Executive Officer (the first shot of production was the tag scene where Stacy Keach welcomes Heston aboard, since that was the only scene in the film Heston had with Keach) and had been earlier trying to get Sidney Poitier. In Heston's "In The Arena" the only time he mentions "Gray Lady Down" is when he talks of how he decided to grow a beard for the role when he learned that submariners at that time were the only ones in the Navy allowed to wear them, and how surprised he was that David Greene just deferred to him so easily on the grounds that as a star Heston could do whatever he wanted to do.

I'd certainly like to know what else was filmed but cut (don't bother reading the novel the film is based on as it has little in common with the film beyond the basic conceit of a sub rammed by a freighter and sinking with crewmen trapped aboard) but so far there isn't a paper trail to consult on this.

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