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Give me a little insight


I'm curious into what is entertaining about these kinds of movies, and why there is this pocket of people who like them. I'm not trying to be condescending or anything I'm just curious. I just don't get it!

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Some of it is pure curiosity, like people who slow down in the car at the scene of an accident...why do people do that?

I'll tell you, for same reason, we are a morbid race by design and want to see/look at things we know we will not like, then moan about it after (often but not always).

Some of it is just to say you have seen it, not to be left out.

Also, for me, if a film is banned, I make a point of watching it. usually after I have watched it I think what a pile of $£*% that was lol, but I am against cencorship as a rule.

It is my right to watch what I like. No one person or group of people have the right to tell me what I can and cannot watch in my opinion. So i watch it.

There are many many reasons, some would make sense to you, others maybe not, just as I may question why you like a certain type of film.

Hope that helped you.

Let it ride...

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In the real world there are a uncountable number of groups of people. Each group has a different taste in entertainment.

Musicwise. You have kids who listen to metal all day and their parents cant understand why. Then you have people who listen to country for days on end, while their friends just dont get it.

Its all just a matter of preference. Some people like to watch porn, and some like comedies. Some like salsher flicks and others want thrillers or action. Same as why people would waste hundereds of dollars to watch a set of 20 some cars drive in a small oval for hours. I personally don't see the pleasure in watching NASCAR.

I suppose its the sense of shock that people want that draws them to the FoD series. I personally like that sense of believing its real. I want to see the otherside of our existence. I mean if you were told you could witness something beyond your imagination... would you?

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I consider "Faces of Death" to be a cult movie phenomenon. Therefore, as a cult movie fanatic i treasure it as the classic it really is. Even if this movie really is the pioneer example of its kind and the most publicly known and talked about movie in the genre you should know that there are definitive differences between "Faces of Death" and the later movies of the genre such as "Traces of Death". This movie is fake.

Wow, did i drop a bomb there? Well to be honest everyone knows that "Faces of Death" is nothing but a marvelously well executed marketing scam. Therefore you should bare in mind that this actually is not at all the dark and morbid piece of crap you might think it is. It is actually just a pretty tame horror flick with an provocative layout.

However to answer your question I find the genre overall to be both fascinating and repulsive at the same time. Curiosity mixed with the excitement of taboo and the adrenaline of pushing yourself to the limit. It really is the final frontier of horror because it delivers what no ordinary horror movie can, pure and authentic, real life horror. It might be a cheap and exploitive way of fulfilling ones urge for excitement but in some ways it does resemble a drug in its efficiency. Some people throw themselves out of airplanes, some people climb mountains and some people watch frightening movies to get their adrenalin pumping, its a question of taste and maybe even coincidence. Either way it is practically the same drug and urge.

If you look back through history you can see that this have been with us all along. We had the gladiators slaughtering each other in front of a bloodthirsty audience, we had quite a few public executions and now we watch it on film instead. With the internet we even enter a new era.

I like the genre but would never sit down and watch a whole 90minute movie of the stuff, with the exception of "Faces of Death". I guess i would get to sad and mentally exhausted by it. So bottom line, fascinating genre but definitely provocative and probably not very healthy in large and frequent amounts.







geeks with attitude!

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Lol don't worry andell. No bomb dropped here. I don't think it would've got released if it was indeed a snuff film .

The reason I made this post is because I am currently studying the desensitisation that has occurred in humans over the years and how media (in particular horror movies) has attributed to it, in which I hope to use as my Masters Psychology research project in my last year in uni.

Andell, you have presented in your case the main reason why people watch horror movies- the adrenaline rush, in which is either consciously admitted or not. However, when you look at horror movies over the years, the earlier ones relied largely on film techniques and a reliance on the audience's imagination to create the "scares", whereas today there has been a large emergence of this "torture porn" and "snuff films". The reason why, I am suggesting, is that over the years humans are really unable to get the same adrenaline rush from movies that use suggestion, and in fact need to actually see the reality of the brutality to get the same adrenaline rush that was achieved from the earlier movies. In fact it goes so far as there is now a market for "snuff films", indicating that people may be finding it hard nowadays to separate reality from entertainment. "Faces of Death" is a film I found in my research I found that may be one of the earliest indications of this desensitisation. I found it very interesting that it was marketed as a snuff film, so to grab the curiosity of their audience.

There is also the case of people using classic horror movie techniques today, such as in “The Blair Witch Project” and “Paranormal Activity”, but I have found that many of my friends who I asked, who are horror fanatics, do not get the same adrenaline rush from these. While personally I find it to be the complete opposite- I really love classic horror movies- it may just be because I’m a wuss and cannot stand overt and over the top violence lol.

But don't get me wrong guys, I have no intention of shaming horror or any violent movies, I am just merely looking at their contribution to desensitisation and why they have developed in such a way over the years. So please keep the insight coming

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Maybe it is because the world is different now, safer and a lot more stable for most of us. Now you need bigger and more intense thrills to fill a bigger need. you had both the second world war and vietnam to influence the climate. Our entertainment mirror our society. Also we had sensationalist gore movies in the 60s to by the likes of Herschell Gordon Lewis, and there is supposed to be a even older video of an electrocution of an elephant. Not to mention the fantastically graphic eyeball slice in "Un Chien Andalou" by Dali and Luis Buñuel in 1928.

the desensitization probably make a difference too, since we get used to the thrills we have seen so many times before. There are still movies that i have found disturbing without any gore such as Stephen Kings IT or the thailand version of Shutter. But most of the things have been done so many times before, therefore it is not a strange thing by us to push everything in the genre to the edge, and then beyond it. Not only gore. This genre however is definitely the most intensified gore thing out there,if you look pass the humorous "Braindead" or similar gorefests.

Btw this would not classify as a snuff film even if it was 100% real since the kills arent done in a financial purpose by the creators. movies like "Traces of Death" contain mostly, if not totally, authentic material of death and decay. However since the movie contain stock material and the violence is not executed by the movies creators in the intent to make money out of it, it is simply called a shocumentary, deathfilm or mondo instead. Making them just as legal as the fake "Faces of death" to sell.




geeks with attitude!

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You should consider that "desensitisation" is not neccessarily a linear process. Intuitively, I would assume that once we tired with the suggestive techniques in the older films, we needed explicit scenes to be moved in some way; similarly, once we've been through a phase of that, it's back to suggestion again. Would be naive to assume in your thesis that this is representative of some new development in our culture. It might be the case, but then that would have to be part of your hypothetical framework (which i'm guessing has a more narrow scope).

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This is true. I mean it is not like we are at the stage where we make people fight for their lives for entertainment like in the Colosseum of yesteryear, but yes, what I am getting at is looking at the differences of the suggestive entertainment from older films and the norm of bloody violence which is more prominent today.

Sadly though, in my research I have found a lot of studies suggesting my idea not as original as I once thought, with much primary evidence to sate my curiosity to the point where I don't think I'll be using this for my honours project anymore. It is still interesting hearing from you guys though

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On the opposite side of the coin, it's important to realize that there is also something called sensitization. Some people are afraid of being desensitized by viewing real life gore. I believe that if a person is fortified with enough philosophy that it can do the opposite; SENSITIZE you rather than desensitize. I really believe that being exposed to real life horror can make certain people more aware of what is really happening on their planet and more compassionate to the plight of animals being slaughtered and tortured for their flesh. More compassionate for those suffering from extreme and horrific diseases that have left them in a freakish physical state. More compassionate to the 25,000 humans on our planet that die every single day (on average) from starvation and it's effects. More compassionate to the victims of war; those at the receiving end of bombs and terrorist attacks.

But the key here is that the person watching this footage needs to have a certain amount of intelligence and sensitivity towards it's fellow creatures in order to truly benefit from viewing this type of material. It's possible that a person with sociopathic tendencies may become even more desensitized.

Even if the viewer becomes a vegetarian or an anti-war pacifist than a great deal of good has come out of these types of horrific images.

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I think its simply that we are built to learn, so when we get an opportunity to see something that rarely happens we instinctively look, maybe so we can learn how to not fall victim to the same thing.

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I remember this Faces of Death series was really popular during the mid-to-late '80s, when home video was becoming the norm. Only saw some of one, because I couldn't get how people would actually watch real death scenes--that was just sick and disgusting as hell to me, and other teens in y high school would talk about it--someone told me about some monkey's head getting beat in, and its brain eaten--some sick s*** like that. That was one trend I was glad to see go.

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I was a kid in the 80s and we had a mom and pop video store that was within bike riding distance. This VHS was one of the ones that I always saw in the horror isle, but my friends and I would never rent it because of its reputation. When we finally did, it was a big deal. There was no internet to look things up on back then, so at that age we all thought it was real.

As an adult, it’s a nostalgic time capsule oddity, but I will say that it is interesting how these films were born out of the earlier mondo movies and their children were the gore websites of the early 2000s. Also, having a narrator named Francis B. Gross is pretty damn funny too.

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