Dreadful film....


I watched this one on cable earlier this evening. I hadn't seen it years, and it was even more dreadful than I had remembered.

One of Dunaway's worst performances ever.

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This movie is fantastic!!!! You should watch it again

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I've seen this film many times, and I love it more with each viewing. It's one of the best adult thrillers ever. I can't imagine anyone not loving this film, but I guess I'm out of step with popular tastes on a lot of titles, so excellence is in the "eyes" of the beholder.

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I havent even seen all of it but , there are way worse movies out there . If anything its awesome to see some of those actors so young

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There's a poster on the wall in brad doriff apartment. It's the Blackie's Poolhall wrap-around off The Band's "Stage Fright" album

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Really? I'll have to watch this again. Coincidentally, I just watched the Band's "Last Waltz," which is excellent and bittersweet.

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This movie has fantastic camp value...it's funny as hell.

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Yeah, keep watching til you choke on your own lack of good taste!

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I agree with both sides to some extent. This was basically an American attempt to make an Italian giallo. It's very stylized with characters who are kind of vapid and two dimensional. The plot is absurd, but almost enjoyably so. The music is awful, but also kind cheesy fun. If you're a fan of Italian giallo like I am though, you would appreciate these things more. Criticizing gialli for not being realistic or for being too stylized is like criticizing surrealist or expressionist painters for not faithfully portaying the "real world"--that's just not the point.

Unfortunately, Hollywood with its focus on naturalistic acting and very logical (if not necessarily realistic) stories is ill-suited to make these kind of Italian gialli. Faye Dunaway especially seemed to be taking this whole thing way too seriously (Hollywood method acting and Italian gialli definitely DO NOT go together). If you liked this movie, you should check out some actual Italian gialli to see how this should be done. If you didn't like this movie, keep in mind that's largely because it's drawing on a very different cinematic influence than Hollywood movie-goers are used to. It needs to be judged on its own merits perhaps, before you find it wanting.

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Faye Dunaway especially seemed to be taking this whole thing way too seriously


Boy, there's a masaterpiece of understatement.

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I think the movie is easily dated but it's a good bit of fluff with a lot of familiar faces. The plot was hokey but I've seen worse with less consistency that have gotten more positive criticism.

For me the best moment was at the end when TLJ is revealing to FD he's the killer - courtesy of a split personality as it was called then - and during his monologue his whole bearing changed. I thought it was a real bit of acting in amongst the hamminess of the overall script.

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Hey... major spoiler there buddy

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Totally agree. The movie was a major disappointment up until that point. It went from a 5 to a 6 thanks to TLJ's acting.

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Agree with OneofaKind07 as well as the OP. Just watched this again for the first time in many years, and found it enjoyably ridiculous. Dunaway's performance was a foreshadowing of the camp actress she was to become. I thought if I saw her eyes bug out and heard her scream "NOOOOOOOOO!" one more time, I would drive an icepick through my own eyes.

Positives: the travelogue through my beloved hometown of NYC in '78--what a notalgia trip, remembering SoHo & Hell's Kitchen as they were back then!--and yes, the young TLJ's effective, understated performance.

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Faye Dunaway gives a great performance in this film. Too bad you are deaf, dumb, and blind.

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Pauline Kael loved it and Faye's performance, and she probably is a better judge than you.

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Pauline Kael loved this? So do I, but it doesn't seem like her kind of film.

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Well, she loved Irvin Kershner and Faye Dunaway post-Network but I think she was correct about the movie in any case. It's part of her 'Fear of Movies' essay where she defends more mainstream, pure cinema movies against the art house snobs:

Laura Mars operates on mood and atmosphere and moves so fast, with such delicate changes of rhythm that its sexiness has a subterranean sexiness. It's a really stylish thriller and Faye Dunaway...brings it emotion and presence, as well as a new erotic warmth...no Hollywood sex goddess has ever presented so alluring an image of kinky Death herself.

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Thanks for that take on "Laura Mars" as seen through the eyes of Pauline Kael. I am surprised that so many other critics take a dim view of this film because it seems to have everything that adult thrillers strive for -- an aura of heavy suspense, two likable leads, a distinctive look and soundtrack.

No matter how you feel about the premise or the resolution, I find it hard to believe that critics could dismiss the approach of this film so easily. Maybe the fact that it appeared to aim for the arthouse crowd meant it was destined to meet with the snobs' disapproval.

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I just loved what you said! Pauline Kael's writing was often horrible in just this way. She seemed to spew out whatever came into her mind and never bothered to revise. I think Kael wrote a positive review of this film just because other critics wrote negative ones. That was another of her tactics.

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I just loved what you said! Pauline Kael's writing was often horrible in just this way. She seemed to spew out whatever came into her mind and never bothered to revise. I think Kael wrote a positive review of this film just because other critics wrote negative ones. That was another of her tactics.


Yes, fordraff. That's exactly what Kael did routinely. I hated her for her reviews which were both deliberately obscure and obtuse (to prove her validity as a critic).

Even when I agreed with her about whether a film was good or bad, I hated her screamingly obnoxious reasoning.

Oddly. I actually agree with her here about LAURA MARS. And I'm stunned she liked it.

It's always been a flawed film, and yet something about it has always worked.

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LBJ's mistress tells all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPdviZbk-XI&;


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It is absolutely brilliant!
John Carpenters most hilarious script.
The best score next to 'Saturday Night Fever' in the 70's.
Tommy Lee Jones looks like he's wearing the killers mask from 'Halloween'.
Theoni V. Aldredge's costumes and John Godfrey's sets are priceless.
Grey flannel walls? So funny.
10 outta 10.
I love this movie it set the tone for Brad Dourif's entire career not to mention Rene Auberjonois in drag.

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I gave it 10 out of 10 also, and I rarely do that. This film is almost criminally entertaining.

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Hello, Trainscreen! Might I say that you have excellent taste?

$4 for this film is an excellent buy; I think I paid $5.95 for one of those "condition" copies, but it plays fine.

I'm away from home now, but as I recall, "Prisoner" plays in full over the end credits. I don't think the song appears until then. "Let's All Chant" is terrific also, and of course Odyssey's "Native New Yorker" and Heatwave's "Boogie Nights" are included, but those were hits before this film came out.

Let me know what you think of this. I saw it on HBO in the late '70s and rented it several times before buying the DVD. It seems like most people are lukewarm on this (hence this thread), but those who like it like it a lot!

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Hello again, Trainscreen! I was wrong about the use of "Prisoner": It's played over both the opening and closing credits, though the closing credits have a longer version. I was confused because the same image of Faye Dunaway is used in both sequences, a negative with a close-up of her face.

And yes, many '70s films are better known for their soundtracks than for the actual movies. Of course, with "The Main Event," that's not necessarily a bad thing! ;-) "Thank God It's Friday," "You Light Up My Life" and, sadly, "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" are three other examples.

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I'm glad you were able to see for yourself! I'm hardly a dedicated follower of fashion, but I love this film for the look and atmosphere it creates. I've never watched it with director's commentary, but it's nice to have the making-of. It's rather pointless having the two-sided DVD with fullscreen and widescreen, but I guess some people still watch fullscreen (or maybe not).

You really know your makeup artists. I'm only familiar with Way Bandy because he did Nancy Reagan (or rather, her makeup) and he died of AIDS. And yes, Tommy Lee Jones is at his hottest in this film, bless his pockmarked face.

I associate "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" with Thelma Houston's "Don't Leave Me This Way." Even though the song was a hit a few years before the film, it really seems made for it, just like Kansas' "Carry On Wayward Son" was in "Heroes." More than anything, though, "Goodbar" has Marlena Shaw's excellent and overlooked "Don't Ask to Stay Until Tomorrow."

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Years ago, I wanted to check out thrillers of the late 1970s, so for some silly reason, I felt like giving "Eyes of Laura Mars" a try. I know when I was 9, and going to the theater where "Grease" and "Foul Play" were also playing (two much better heralded 1978 hits), that grim poster of "Eyes of Laura Mars" really gave me nightmares, but as I got older, I overcame them.

The good news of this movie was the 1970s fashions and culture, the New York backdrop, the stylish cinematography, and a intriguing murder mystery about a fashion photographer with "visions" of her friends getting killed one by one before the killer gets to her. The bad news was that the murder mystery was played so gruesomely with the type of killings one doesn't want to talk or think about, most of the characters were created so bitterly and hatefully (with the exception of Rene Auberjonois of "Benson" fame, for comic relief, as a cheerfully gay guy,) as in many kinky movies, and the ending was such a mess. "Eyes" would have been a good, silly, fun, even kinky film if everyone just lightened up, didn't take themselves so seriously, or if the killings weren't so ugly. Spoiler alert - just because the killer was so good looking, didn't mean he or she had to be it for the payoff. By now, everyone who has witnessed this movie knows who the killer was.

Oh, here I go again. I'm always blogging back to "Foul Play," but that's my lifelong movie fetish. Yes, "Eyes of Laura Mars" did play exactly next door to "Foul Play" when I saw "Foul Play," and before that, "Grease." I'm glad that my parents took me to see those two. I was much too young, and I would have been too frightened to see "Eyes." I don't think anyone in my family would like "Eyes." But "Eyes" and "Foul Play" do have a few, if any, characteristics in common. The protagonists are damsels in distress, with Faye Dunaway less innocent than Goldie Hawn, falling in love with police lieutenants, Tommy Lee Jones less charming and upbeat than Chevy Chase, while being stalked by villains in big cities - San Francisco for "Foul Play" and New York for "Eyes." Hey, Dudley Moore got the kinky bits, but he was cheerfully kinky. That's all I have to say. And who can imagine a light buffoon like Chevy Chase beating the gritty Tommy Lee Jones to a a pulp, or the giggly, wide-eyed Goldie Hawn doing the same to the tough-as-nails Faye Dunaway? It may sound strange, but it was true, which is why we all loved Goldie and Chevy back in 1978 and they returned to make another movie in 1980, and we chose to forget Faye and Tommy Lee as a duo.

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Interesting analysis of Faye and Tommy and Goldie and Chevy (hmmmmm ... that sounds like a movie in itself). While I saw a lot more to like in "Eyes," I'm also glad I didn't drag my parents to it, for I was too young, they would have been shocked, and we all would have been very uncomfortable. Instead, I'd just watch it alone late at night on HBO when they were sleeping.

As for Faye and Tommy's chemistry, certainly they didn't have the charm of Chevy and Goldie, but I saw a certain raw sensuality between the two that I still find appealing. Of course, the relationship almost seems like a metaphor for the dangers of intimacy when you know the ending, much like "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" is seen as a warning against picking up strangers and the dangers that would soon arise from that. Of course, Goldie and Chevy's work wasn't nearly so threatening, which is one reason the public so willingly embraced them. But perhaps I'm reading too much into this.

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You got it right. While "Foul Play" is such a cheerful mystery-comedy, it seems to have so many "evil twins." The more serious mystery thrillers set in the big cities with characters who are not so nice and imagery that is so ugly. As I keep saying, "Foul Play" has such beautiful imagery and jolly, jovial characters.

Use the word "sensuality." Faye and Tommy Lee had few romantic scenes, and I didn't find anything sensual about it. Okay, now I'm digressing back to my lifelong fetish and security blanket of Goldie and Chevy. If you want to use the word "sensual," I believe from day one that they are funny and sensual together in every comic and romantic scene in both "Foul Play" and "Seems Like Old Times." That's my sensuality. Chevy added his own sensuality as the playboy in "Caddyshack," but that's a whole other story.

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Most interesting the heading of this viewer blog...

Dreadful? Not really. I watched this again on Netflix just recently, and so many memories came flooding back. Even venturing towards midstream I kept wondering to myself, 'Is this the movie Jones turns the climax (revealing his serial killer) with a twisted, non-relevant violent childhood memory? Why yes, it was. And just what that paradox had to do with the plot was beyond me. That was the only end that failed to make any real sense. But excellent monologue by Jones, no less.

And I agree with you, warpedrecord - amongst a few others. The 70's was very widely known for incredible movie soundtracks (didn't say best) as it was the infamous 'Disco' era. And a flashback to the pre-technology age, and what high fashion was at the time. Very interesting. And it was wonderful to see Dunaway in a strong lead, her pre-oscar nomination 'Mommy Dearest' days.

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Actually, Faye wasn't nominated for "Mommy Dearest." I think the Academy would have been humiliated had that been the case! But she did win for "Network" in 1976.

But yes, the plot "resolution" is pretty undecipherable, but as piece of stylistic entertainment, this film has few equals. This is an adult thriller for an audience that wants nothing more than to be thoroughly entertained. That's enough for me.

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Actually, Faye wasn't nominated for "Mommy Dearest." I think the Academy would have been humiliated had that been the case! But she did win for "Network" in 1976.
I really didn't care for her in NETWORK but loved her in MOMMIE DEAREST. I think it's a travesty that she didn't win for that! Talk about snobbish, I don't know why critics take such a snobbish view of MD! She was SO GOOD in it. And, I say this as a Crawford fan!

As for LAURA MARS, it was an entertaining film, but very disturbing. I mean, I know that's the point, but really, I couldn't stand the death-photography! Ick!! If it were real, I'd probably be one of those protesting it, which is odd for me, since I don't mind porn and many other controversial things... But, I think I draw the line at bloodshed and things resembling it. That said, I did like the film. I just think that it could have been done with a bit more of the suggestive rather than the visual (like golden-age crime films were). And, I think the fashions in the modeling scenes were unsightly! I love some skin and sexiness...But, I just thought those fashion scenes where somehow vulgar. Those are my complaints about the film. Now, for my compliments---it's effectively chilling and engaging. Faye was also super hot in it (she dressed classy, had a great hair-do and color, and her make-up was natural...)!

Please excuse typos/funny wording; I use speech-recognition that doesn't always recognize!

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I watched this one on cable earlier this evening. I hadn't seen it years, and it was even more dreadful than I had remembered.
One of Dunaway's worst performances ever.

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yep. A horrible boatload of sleaze. One of those movies that led the way in turning 'films as art' into 'films as plastic lifestyle products.' It would be hard to get shallower than this movie.

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really? I think it is a bit dull at times but not bad at all

6/10



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