Jane Fonda showed her natural beauty in this movie, a gorgeous looking person, inside as well, I would imagine. Her looks, the way she wore her clothes, the way she moved, or just stood there, her very presence was lovely.
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shareI agree one hundred percent! She has such natural beauty, doesn't need alot of make-up. What a wonderful movie, first time I viewed it the other night. I wonder why I missed that one, the scenery was to die for!! Great movie, I'm going to buy that one!!
share"Comes a Horseman" will be playing on TCM in a few minutes, and I thought I would look up information about the movie, who's in it, and so forth.
I can't watch it though. Jane Fonda just has too much history. I can't watch "On Golden Pond", I can't even watch "Barbarella". It doesn't matter how talented she is or how beautiful she was back in the 60's and 70's. It would make a difference if she'd repented, if she had admitted that what she did was wrong. But it never happened and now it's too late.
It's as if some great actress from the 1930s had gone to Berlin, met with Hitler, and fired off a few anti-aircraft rounds at Allied bombers. If there had been someone like that, I don't think she would have had a film career afterward.
Too bad they cast her in this movie. I might have watched it if another actress was playing the lead role.
Absolutely correct. fonda is a traitorous whore who should be reviled and despised but is instead famous and adored. She is one of the reasons actors should not be looked up to or admired as role models. Their opinions and political views should be ignored and dismissed as the irrelevance they are. They live in an insulated bubble in Hollywood and play make believe not in the real world with the rest of us and it warps their minds.
shareWhat makes their points of view and opinions any less than, say, yours? Because "they" aren't part of the hypocritical, rabid right?
He who is without sin cast, the first stone.
This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.
Jane Fonda did address her actions during the Vietnam War and said that she regrets some of the things she did. I hold nothing against her. Besides the fact that she was young and idealistic, she was absolutely correct that the US had no place in Vietnam. No matter how you slice it, the US made a huge mistake and protesters were right to speak out.
shareShe was old enough to know better. She's seven years older than Sirhan Sirhan, and he will die in prison for what he did in the 1960s.
If you want to forgive Ms Fonda for what she did, that's up to you. A great number of Americans will always classify her with Tokyo Rose and William Joyce, aka Lord Haw-Haw, who was hanged for treason after WWII by the way.
People on all sides used the POWs for propagandistic purposes. I think it is interesting that, of all the people who behaved poorly during that troublesome era it is an outspoken woman who receives venomous attacks. Most of her enemies (mostly men) are also very quick to defend Nixon and a multitude of men who actually made the decisions to send young Americans to their deaths -- for nothing except to maintain their own pride -- and were in the position to make changes to stop the killing. My father was one of the victims of Vietnam and I sure as h@*! don't blame Jane Fonda for that.
shareIt was Lyndon Johnson who expanded the American role in the Vietnam War -- from a relative handful of military advisors to the eventual level of over 500,000 soldiers, marines, sailors and flyers. Nixon was the one who changed the strategy, returned most of the garrisoning duties back to the South Vietnamese army, and eventually brought home the last of the Americans in 1973.
So regardless of whether you supported the war or opposed it, Johnson is the one who expanded the war and then fought it with a failed strategy; Nixon is the one who put Creighton Abrams in charge, and Abrams developed a strategy that succeeded.
By 1972-73 the war was won -- then victory was thrown away at the peace talks in Paris, and Vietnam was lost by the Congress in 1974-75 when it cut off support for the South Vietnamese government.
This is getting far afield from Jane Fonda's actions at the time. Incidentally, she was 35 years old when she made that infamous trip to Hanoi, so "youthful idealism" is hardly an excuse.
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Davve11: I am your worst enemy... someone who knows what he's talking about.
shareAmen to that, just like the one we are in right now!
shareWakanohana the fact is that Fonda had the right to speak and protest whether we agree with what she did or not. It is a right that the allied soldiers fought to keep in WWII. Also she sat on an anti-aircraft gun she didn't fire it and she has apologized and expressed regret as well as admitted she was wrong both in an interview with Barbara Walters and with 60 Minutes. Yes it was wrong for her to be photographed there and was wrong for her to say the things that she did but she is certainly not responsible for the Americans losing in Vietnam and for the lost lives. Her "history" should have no bearing on her career as an actress. She is not playing Jane Fonda in these movies after all.
share orrfhan: Crimes are crimes. Bernie Madoff was not forgiven because he said he was sorry. Every day, convicted murderers are sentenced to death or life without parole even though they express contrition.
Treason is an unusual crime, because the victims are not individuals or some small group. Treason is a crime against the society, where one takes the side of those who want to destroy our society.
We expect the behavior of the soldiers, spies, saboteurs and others working for the enemy, and we kill them so they do not succeed. We do not normally expect those belonging to our society, to take sides against our society, to work for the success of our enemies and for the deaths of our soldiers and civilians.
I would not like to live in a country where charges of treason are bandied about freely, where everyone who disagrees with the leadership is branded a traitor. But where there is clear evidence of treason, or other crimes against society, then I think the punishment out to fit the crime.
Private Bradley Manning, who stole confidential cables and turned them over to Wikileaks, will very likely spend the rest of his life in prison. Jonathan Pollard was convicted of spying for our ally Israel; he's been in prison for decades and will likely stay there until he dies. I suspect each of them regrets his actions, or at least is sorry that he has to suffer the punishment for his actions. In my opinion Jane Fonda's actions were just as contemptible, but she has paid no penalty EXCEPT for the reprobation of her fellow Americans. It does not matter how many times she appears on TV and makes her carefully phrased apology, she has not paid the price.
Oh! Do you live in a Glass House?????
shareShe has shown her remorse and regret and she NEVER fired the gun, let alone at an American plane.
Speaking of Hitler, what do you think of Prescott Bush, Henry Ford and the other titans of American business' role in the rise of Hitler?
This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.
Here come the usual troop of self righteous clowns, so pleased to have something to hate.
For what it's worth, I'm a former Marine, Viet-Nam Vet.
I've always admired Jane Fonda, she owes me no apology.
I agreeWhen there's no more room in hell, The dead will walk the earth...
And Satan can appear as an angel of light. Hanoi Jane is still Hanoi Jane.
"They sucked his brains out!"
Somehow I knew that Vietnam would pop up in this (or any) Jane Fonda discussion. I realize it was, and apparently still is, a big deal to some people, but can't we just let that lie and stay on topic?
Anyway, she was beautiful in this part. Very natural. Good makeup and a good cinematographer will make you believe neither was used.
She was beautiful indeed, and the cinematography certainly didn't hurt (though I think she would look great regardless of the camera work). But I wonder if she looked a bit too good for the role here? She was rather glam when her character was more gritty.
shareBut I wonder if she looked a bit too good for the role here?No I think she was perfect. Genuinely looked and acted like a resolute cattlewoman, with her natural beauty still undimmed beneath the dust, grime and generally non-flattering clothes.🐭 share
Just saw the movie again and I will disagree with you just a tad.
Yes - she was a pretty girl and a beautiful woman - but I think she was pretty heavily made-up this entire movie but in a very excellent way of NOT looking made up.
In no other movie or picture I have seen does she have that "weathered" look that everyone who works outside day in and day out gets.
So - kudos to the make-up people and I personally think she should have gotten her Oscar for her acting in THIS movie rather than "Coming Home" - but apparently one really increases one's chances by appearing in "politically correct IMPORTANT" movies AND (if you are a woman) acting out an orgasm scene. And there weren't any "orgasm" scenes for Jane here.
thank you, Oldsenior, for your great observation. Fonda was never more beautiful, though she still looks great today.
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