My NDE


Before I start, I expect the "anti religious" nuts and religious nuts to have it out on this board somewhere. This is open for everyone, so let me say what I think.
Here's your chance to tell us all about how Christians and religious nuts are crazy and hallucinate about heaven and hell and how everyone is brainwashed and how god doesn't do his job. Then leave a score of 1 of course. Then there's the guy that does do a fair review but is of course, biased one way or the other.
Then, there's the people out there that are lucky and/or unlucky enough to have experienced what is being documented here. I at least know for one thing, these experiences are very real to the people they happen to, are very intense and leave questions that cannot be answered.
Recently, there have been a lot of scientific studies that help explain the out of body experiences but do not explain how a hallucination could involve seeing and hearing things without eyes and ears or even any brain activity.
I may have been brainwashed somewhat by going to church as a kid, but my NDE was the opposite of everything I had been told. I did have the out of body experience (I have always been told these are terrible ungodly events so you would think I wouldn't have done it myself). I got up out of bed (never looked back otherwise maybe I could tell you I saw myself like most of these). I walked towards the bathroom and looked toward a wall. The wall started to disappear and I saw what I thought was the devil's face (lucifer not like a weird horned guy). I sort of did what you would think and said he was not welcome here, etc. At this point, I believe I was deprived of oxygen (as you will find out later what was going on to my body as I choked in my sleep).
I had been dabbling in exorcism, as in I was very prayerful and had found someone who claimed to have demons and strange things happening to them. They were into bondage and other things. The person was well known and professional in a sport that was hot at the time. Many people had confirmed that he was reporting all these weird things and were freaked out.
I decided that I could help, and I was careful to test him out to see if he would make any claims that were outrageous. So I sent him some pictures of people at a costume party, some looked demonic as there were people with makeup and fake blood. Some pictures were just of people that showed up dressed normally.
He started to get angry with me because upon seeing one of the pictures, he experienced a nightmarish vision of being thrown through glass and a yellow piece of metal ripping through his body. I made sure not to say anything about the picture and let him talk to me and say how he felt. He felt helpless and as if everything had ended and he was angry because nobody could take him down. He was very aggressive. I was scared I had messed up getting involved with him at all. But what he had seen was the death of my friend in that picture. He died in a truck accident being thrown through glass and hitting some signs and posts.
We were both kind of shocked and looked for ways that this could be a coincidence but just came to the conclusion that it was his time to realize that he was not invincible and think about what he is doing with his life.
I offered the typical prayer and guidance you would expect, criticize me if you will, sure.
After this, I went through several months of weird bumps in the night, seeing things, hearing whispers, I actually started to smile and become comfortable with these things. I thought you know, god is going to save me so they can't touch me, whatever.
But as I was having my out of body experience, I went from walking around and being able to lucid dream a bit to falling through the floor. I just kept going down.
After a while, I could feel again almost as if I had woken up. I got up and looked around and I was in a cave or something. There was a dim light flickering an orangish red on a wall far away. I saw a man walk by it and he came up to me. I was hoping to wake up or something, but it was like I was already awake and very real. I was very uncomfortable, I couldn't breathe very well. The man came closer and grabbed me by the throat. As best as I could tell he had wavy hair, muscular, but very angry. So angry, I could feel that he hated me.
I never felt such hopelessness, hate, a sense of no escape, fear that I would never see my wife and kids. I felt far from god or any kind of hope. I prayed, "god save me" and there was nothing.
The man said "god can't save you now."
I felt like if I were hallucinating, it was wearing off and I was seeing the same thing! He just kept looking at me. At I kept feeling like I just wish I wasn't there. It was like being trapped in a cave or something, but I didn't have any hope of getting out or being rescued.
I tried to pray again, but he just kept choking me, I couldn't move my arms even though I could feel them. I tried to look away but it's like I was frozen looking at his face and it's hateful look.
I prayed without talking this time, I said "Jesus save me" and (Lucifer or whatever he was) let go and I was just thrown upward. I jumped out of my bed as if the momentum was still going.
I was just gasping and gasping, getting a little bit of air every time. My head was throbbing, my heart was beating. I thought I might pass out. I kept walking and trying to breathe. I looked down and I could still feel somehow the angry man was looking up at me and still wanted to get me.
It's been about 5 years, and I still am scared about this.
I blame myself for wanting to give up on life. I was out of work and depressed. I thought the worse that could happen was that I go to heaven and it's better than this dump.
Now I really, really appreciate just being alive. I don't care if I have to live on the street or have anything. If I can see my family and not be in a cave with that...it's not even the evil looking man, it was the hopelessness and just the most intense feeling of being hated and held captive where nobody could find you ever. And it must have only been a few minutes, but going through everything that happened it seemed like 20 or 30 minutes from out of body, going to hell, and coming back.
I really think there is something to this. Maybe you disagree with the bible stories but they came from somewhere perhaps people have seen these things from the beginning of time, even before there were any stories of hell.

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I felt bad you never got a reply. Here you go. :)

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