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best thing miyazaki ever made


I recently dusted off my vhs fansubs of this series and started watching it again for the first time in five years, mostly so my husband could finally see it. (He's an old school anime fan... he watched the original Gundam in Japanese when it first came out... but apparently he had never seen this series). Anyway, I'm convinced it's the best thing Miyazaki ever did because a) it's obvious from his work on Lupin III he was great at directing television, something I wish he still did, b) this was before Miyazaki became a huge hippy and before every single thing he did reeked of an environmentalist message (I'm not necessarily knocking his politics, but I watch anime for enjoyment, not to be preached at, sorry). Also, I think I love the characters in this series more than all his other characters, especially Captain Dyce, who has to be the best anime pedophile ever.

My question is, has anyone seen any images from the tv series sequel that was made in the late nineties? I heard about it on various websites, but I haven't found any information on the plot of the show or whether or not the original characters are in the show.

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There're a couple of pictures here:
http://animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=2622

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I agree that this series is one of Miyazaki's best in TV anime. But hard to know whether the late 90s one is any good or not.

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I can only agree! Here in Italy it's well known, especially among those "old" children like me.
I was born in the 70' and the whole series was shown in TV repeatedly every year. It's funny, but also very moving, and it delivers a powerful message of peace.
It's a pity that today the only anime they consider suitable for children are simply silly or violent, or both. While I'd make compulsory to show Conan in every school. :-)

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That remake with that pic on the aforementioned link is TERRIBLE!

No wonder no one has heard of it, nobody picked it up for a reason. Anyways there's a chance I could be wrong -- but a remake of a Miyazaki's classic, if not his best OPUS, to be outclassed by any anime series is highly unlikely.

Indeed this is the best tv show, cartoon or otherwise, I've ever seen. Miyazaki was in his cusp of greatness, in his apex, when he was doing this series. In my opinion anyways, yo.

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I looked it up a bit and from what i gather it's not actually a remake but a sequel series of sorts. Though from the plot synopsis it seems like it's not directly related.

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any idea where i can get this on dvd?

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I agree that it's his best (next to Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind which is like a quick 1 hour summary of this series) but I find it odd that you would call Dyce a pedophile, why? And to say that he was the best one too? You're weird.

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but I find it odd that you would call Dyce a pedophile, why?

Because he was constantly perving on a prepubescent girl? It was very weird, and other characters even referenced his obsession with Lana, like when Dongoroth caught Jimsy stuck in the porthole, and told him not to peep on Lana like the Captain. Even Lana was visibly creeped out at one point when he blew her a kiss and she recoiled in disgust. Plus Dyce's jealousy of Conan's relationship with her further added to his creep persona. None of the other adults treated her as an object of desire.


You saw Dingleberries?

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(I'm not necessarily knocking his politics, but I watch anime for enjoyment, not to be preached at, sorry)
I would agree with this about certain filmmakers, but not Miyazaki. Of course, every artist is going to have some of their worldview in their art, but it only becomes a problem when the work becomes more of a lecture than an entertainment - a problem that Miyazaki is very good at avoiding.

One of the things Miyazaki excels at is integrating his worldview into the worlds and stories of his films without it becoming distracting - he never stops the film to give you a lecture. (This applies to more than just the environmental stuff, too. For example, it reveals quite a bit about his worldview/politics that most of the time the conflicts in his films aren't resolved through violence, but rather through the two parties coming to a sort of mutual understanding. When violence is used, it's often depicted as something harsh, undesirable, and/or childishly unproductive.)

Any "messages" are just offered as asides - like the bottles in the country stream in Totoro or Kiki being thrown off course by the smoke pouring out of a factory in an idyllic countryside - that most people won't even think about and that don't detract in any way from the overall entertainment value of the film (the only real exception to this might be Princess Mononoke, his most overtly environmentalist film.)

Or, at least, that's the way I see it.

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More on point - I haven't seen "Future Boy Conan" yet, but I'm excited to finally watch it. I've heard a lot of praise.

I suppose on a clear day you can see the class struggle from here

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For example, it reveals quite a bit about his worldview/politics that most of the time the conflicts in his films aren't resolved through violence, but rather through the two parties coming to a sort of mutual understanding. When violence is used, it's often depicted as something harsh, undesirable, and/or childishly unproductive.)


That was something both frustrating and refreshing about Future Boy Conan. There are so many vile, reprehensible, even genocidal characters that I was really hoping that each and every one received a violent death. But in almost every case, the person is spared when the opportunity for vengeance upon them arrives, and they ultimately redeem themselves. I wanted their deaths so badly in the moment that it was frustrating (and they certainly deserved it) but the message of redemption and forgiveness in the story was refreshing, and probably made it an altogether more enjoyable experience.

I'm not sure if some of them should have been so easily forgiven though.


You saw Dingleberries?

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