This series has not aged


Watching this series for the first time this week (February 2006) I was surprised to discover it was made in 1976: thirty years ago!!??? Oh my God?! It doesn't look it. It seems like it could have been completed last month. I think it's the quality of the whole production (acting, directing, set design, etc). It's superb. Of course the saddest realisation about the whole experience was to realise that the principal actors (Gemma Jones and Christopher Cazenove) have also aged. And I just found out from this site that Gemma Jones played the mother in the recent Briget Jones films!
To all those who are still alive today and were part of the production of THE DUCHESS OF DUKE STREET, I want to say: thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you. There's really nothing else to say.

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I agree with you both! How much I enjoyed Sunday nights so many years ago, when this treasured series was on. So sad when Charlie died, but felt so empty when the last episode aired - like losing a great friend. Another favorite series was "Lillie ", with Francesca Annis - excellent ! And " Mapp & Lucia " was hilarious - check them both out.

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Mapp& Lucia is also a wonerful series! I don't know why the writers let Charlie die; surely there could have been many script possibilities had he lived. It's a shame there were only 2 series. I think many of the older BBC series are more superior productions then their present day counterparts. With regards to Mapp & Lucia, "georgie" Nigel Hawthorne has passed away, but "Lucia" plays Miss Marple in the current Mystery Series.

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Just one small note here: the Masterpiece Theatre series in which Francesca Annis plays Lily Langtry is titled EDWARD THE KING.

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Sorry lovey, you're wrong. I have the boxed set here, and the series IS entitled "Lillie"! Perhaps she was also mentioned in another movie called "Edward the King".

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Okay, let me clear all this up. Francesca Annis played Lillie Langtry in a cameo performance in a thirteen-part serial entitled 'Edward the Seventh' which starred Timothy West in the title role, with Annette Crosbie as Queen Victoria, Helen Ryan as Queen Alexandra, Robert Hardy as Prince Albert, Felicity Kendal as Princess Vicky, Michael Hordern as Gladstone and John Gielgud as Disraeli. It was originally transmitted in the UK in 1975 and then in the US under the title 'Edward the King'. It has also sometimes been called 'The Royal Victorians'.

Three years later, in 1978, Annis played the same part in another thirteen-part serial called 'Lillie', in which she dominated the entire story. Anton Rodgers played Edward Langtry, with Denis Lill as Edward VII and Peter Egan as Oscar Wilde. Annis won the 1979 BAFTA Award for Best Actress for her performance here.

There, I hope that has settled things once and for all.

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RIGHT-O. Sorry for the mistaken slant!

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To all those who are still alive today and were part of the production of THE DUCHESS OF DUKE STREET, I want to say: thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you.
From the bottom of our hearts.



"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."
Oscar Wilde

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I'm into my 3rd disc of the S1 of The Duchess of Duke Street and I'm in heaven. I cut my anglophile teeth on Masterpiece Theater of the 70's - 80's (my best Christmas Gift in the past few years was the entire Upstairs Downstairs on DVD!) But I somehow missed the start of The Duchess and never got involved later because I wanted to see the whole thing from the beginning and assumed that someday they'd replay the whole thing. WELL, they never did and so hooray for Netflix!

Anybody else out there wish that "someone" would start a cable network devoted to this kind of quality program - it IS timeless, and WE know there is an audiance.

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Anybody else out there wish that "someone" would start a cable network devoted to this kind of quality program - it IS timeless, and WE know there is an audiance.


If you live in the States, you know that all of these wonderful series were shown on Masterpiece Theater on PBS.

I have both series of "Duchess of Duke Street, the whole series on DVDs of "Upstairs, Downstairs" and the whole series of "All Creatures, Great and Small".

"Masterpiece Theater" is still shown..and they still have some wonderful shows.




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user739, I agree! It's nice of you to come here and say this and I hope that members of the cast read it.

This production is beautiful. Eliza's clothes are absolutely fabulous. They are not only beautiful in their own right but they suit her perfectly.

The sets and costuming are great.I still have memory of one particular table decoration that was sitmply stunning. This production fed my passion for Vicotrian and Edwardian tableware.

And, the story line and characters are great, too!

It hasn't aged, the OP is right, due to the high production values. With some of those early BBC costume dramas the men and women are in 1970's hairstyles, but not Eliza and her group!

You can see why she caught the eye of the Pricne of Wales,. Her beautiful auburn hair and milky white skin would have been the standard of beauty of that day.

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Eliza? Do you mean Louisa?

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I don't know where I was when this series came out because I watch most of the Masterpiece Theater series but I watched it for the first time recently through Netflix rentals and it was so nice when I had three or four episodes to look forward to. It was also nice getting to watch everything fairly close together, so I could remember connections between minor players. The Brits really know how to create characters and situations that pull you in, don't they? The scripts were great, the decor was wonderful, the subplots among the servants a major part of the pleasure. John Merriman as the decrepit but intuitive butler (who spots the phonies the minute they walk into the hotel) was so funny and so persuasively old that I kept fearing he would die on the set. (One amusing thread is the amount of time and energy spent on a dog that displays almost no personality at all.)
I asked a friend if he was familiar with the series and he said, "Oh you mean the one with that woman with that awful voice?" and I knew what he meant. Gemma Jones's character's voice sounds more decidedly lower class next to Charlie and the other upscale denizens of the hotel, but boy is she a strong character, the kind you love even when you know she is behaving badly. In addition to providing wonderful escape, this series is also good at giving a sense what the Edwardian period (is that it?) in England looked and felt like -- by the end of the series the skirts are getting shorter, the women more liberated... A pure delight.

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I must echo the OP's thanks to the surviving cast members. I still feel misty-eyed when I remember dear old John Welsh, John Cater, Richard Vernon, Paul Curran and other beloved performers from the series are gone. BTW: Merriman was the head waiter; hotels don't have butlers. I also felt riveted by Masterpiece Theatre throughout my youth and young adult years. Masterpiece Theatre unfortunately has fallen on hard times recently. Some of the contemporary Jane Austen remakes, as well as the remake of Six Wives of Henry VIII and the vapid, anachronistic Virgin Queen, were positively unwatchable. We not only need a cable channel that will show the beloved classic BBC/Granada/ITV Brit series we adore, but will also revive the nearly lost art of bringing great literature to the small screen.

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I had to read your post carefully because I thought that I wrote it ! haha. I've written the same thing in recent years about this show. The production values are superb. I especially love Louisa's dresses they are fabulous. And I love her table settings.

This is in my top 5 of British TV costume dramas.

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My wife and I are watching the series.
At first I didn't think it was at the level of Upstairs Downstairs.
But by the middle of Season 2 after a series of tragedies it rose to top quality costume drama TV.

(I am thinking of a scene where Louisa is reading a letter which is very touching.)

Agreed that the production values and costumes are very good.
And I can't fault the acting either.

8/10

BB ;-)

it is just in my opinion - imo - 🌈

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