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Blake's 7 vs Avon's 7


AKA: Seasons 1&2 vs Seasons 3&4

I've recently been rewatching the series and am onto season 3 and i have to say that although it kind of lacks the purpose and forward push of Blake's political activism and anti-federation mission but it also became much more of an ensemble show, you get Vila-centric episodes, Cally-centric episodes etc which kind of happened with the first 2 seasons but it was always as a background to some Blake related story

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I'm watching the show for the first time and am somewhere in early season 4. I discussed the same question when watching season 3.

I miss Blake vs Avon - Avon is at his best when spitting at Blake and vice versa. I agree that the political activism gave the show a purpose.

But on the other hand it's not that bad to watch them flying randomly around and doing whatever comes to their mind and serves them best - especially considering that they are still fighting the federation. You are also right that it's nice that the other characters (especially Avon) get more place. I don't really mind that the show changed. I'm impressed that it's still just as good as before. Maybe change is what keeps a show fresh - like it does for Doctor Who.

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Well, they still say stuff like "We are enemies of the federation" or "We fight the federation." now and then.

You might be right about the main purpose but the fight is still there too.

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well definitely once they hit season avon gets much more political but often still with a pragmatic slant.

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actually, thinking about it, it sort of makes sense that there is less of the political activism in season 3. when the season starts star one has been destroyed, the federation's forces are in ruins... to a certain extent (for a limited time at least) Blake had won, it's only once the federation starts rebuilding that Avon starts to take action. in 'deathwatch' the crew act to stop servalan from making a powerplay so anti-federation activities are still in their minds

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well I guess not everything was ruined but one of servalan's main goals of season 3 was to get the liberator so that she could use it to help regain and expand the federation's empire.


I'm currently re-watching season 4 and I have to say i'm enjoying it possibly a bit more than season 4... I don't know whose idea it was to replace model filming with video effects for the spaceships but... bad idea! it looks shocking! at least the liberator shots looked decent half the time.
the splitting up of the crew by having some stay on base while others go on missions works sometimes better than others

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well no having someone stay on board the ship was always a good idea and i'm pretty sure that most episodes around the liberator (except maybe gambit and horizon) someone always stayed on the ship. it was more something like animals you have Tarrant and Dayna go off in scorpio on the mission while Soolin, Avon and Vila stay back at Xenon base and don't do much for the ep

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I prefer Series 1-2.

The show lost it's direction of the rebels vs the Federation after Blake left, it even started losing it slightly in Series 2 which is what Gareth Thomas claimed was a reason why he left because it became more of a fantasy show with aliens and such rather than a western in space, although the search for Star One was very exciting stuff mostly.

Series 1 is my favourite it's the most gritty and best written in my opinion, with only 'The Web' really being poor in my view.



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IMHO the main differences between Blake's 7 (seasons 1-2) & Avon's 7 (seasons 3-4)...

Blake was a rebel leader who found his calling leading the resistance cell. He did things with the vision of making other ppl's lives better. Avon was an engineer/programmer turned pirate. Their schemes in Series 4 were self serving... seeking/stealing technology prototypes, valuable chemical substances... get-rich-quick schemes. Avon's 7 had the vision of making their own lives better.

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The change makes perfect sense, though, since Blake's political objectives are pretty much realised at the end of Season 2. The old Federation - the one he was fighting against - is all but destroyed, albeit not in the way he'd imagined. After that it's pretty much every man for himself until Servalan starts picking up the pieces and building a new Federation, which is more like her personal evil empire than the ubiquitous cynical regime she used to serve. The crew's more pragmatic, grab-what-we-can-and-settle-some-scores-along-the-way approach gels quite nicely with the free-for-all galaxy the Galactic War leaves in its wake.

Besides, Season 2 was a downward spiral for Blake, as he became less of a principled freedom fighter and more of a blustering fanatic - bossing the crew about, planning missions without consulting them (or even explaining himself) and expecting them all to just accept his executive decisions, etc. As a kid I always found it weird to be watching Blake's 7 with no Blake; as an adult, I honestly wasn't sorry to see him go.

Interestingly, the character of Del Grant from "Countdown" was introduced as a possible "replacement Blake", but the idea was never followed through. It certainly would have made "Rumours of Death" an even more interesting episode than it was, and that episode alone would have provided more than enough Avon/Grant tension to see them through the next season at least. And I'd have been much happier to have Grant join the crew than Tarrant - even as a kid, I thought Tarrant was a dork.

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