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worst mistake I've ever seen in a movie.

posted 18 years ago by Dercrenwelge
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This movie is great except for the rotoscoping. I think that's terible except for backgrounds like when the evil wizards is sitting on his throne with the clouds behind him, but to the point. Worst mistake ever. When they are leaving to go to scoorch the narrator says this about the fairy she goes home to tell her father goodbye and that she will return as queen after avenging her fathers death. this is just after the scene where her father dies, and they say she goes home to tell him goodbye and avenge his death in same sentence. bahh editing should have caught that.

[–] aceduck505 18 years ago

She says "to tell her family goodbye" The rotoscoping was because of budget problems and i found it fasinating to watch a very different style and idea for an animation. The director also used alot of that in The Lord of The rings movie as well.

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[–] mega-17 18 years ago

i couldn't disagree more. the rotoscoping effect in this film mixed with the other animation is part of what made wizards "WIZARDS" for me. just gave it such character.

[–] hayted 18 years ago

Here's a dumb question,but,what is rotoscoping?

Ive seen it used in many different posts of movies,but they're(the movies)so different from each other,that rotoscoping isnt at all what i thought it might be...lol

I just saw the term used in Waking life,and the only thing i saw in common with this movie is,its animated,partially mind you.

So i was thinking,maybe rotoscoping is : the angles used "rotoscoping" in making the movie? Or,is it a term used for making the human body in animation more lifelike?
Appleseed,being the perfect example for that.

Thanx for anyone/everyones help,,OH YA.....any comments being hateful,negative or derogatory,keep them to yourselves,as these boards already have enough negativity thank you very much.

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[–] bobbobbob123 18 years ago

Not a dumb question, just lazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping

[–] roninsharpener 18 years ago

rotoscoping is where they intentionally place one cinematic image over another. It's the same technique they used in The Nightmare Before Christmas to make the ghosts appear transparent. It applies to a wide range of techniques that all acheive a similar effect.

In the case of wizards, Ralph Bakshi took several segments from various epic war movies, enlarged it until he could manipulate it, and then either cut parts of it out to be used ala shadow puppets over another film cell or used it as a backgounrd for other segments.

All those scenes w/ the battles that we're psychedilically colored were rotscoped. Also, a lot of the scenes where elves are fighting were rotoscoped

[–] iamstillhiro1112 18 years ago

who knows, that wizard can have some kinda laboratory back there that is making alot of steam. Or else it can have something to do with radiation. Or its a magic thing. Either way I always thought it was cool.

It is possible that Elenoire told her village she was returning, while at the same time telling her brothers, sisters, mother that she might not return. If thats the case Im sure she told the fairies what she said to keep their morale up. Ya know, thats probably a fairy thing to always talk positive.

[–] Jal8919536 18 years ago

It's not really a mistake. The narrator (alluded to be Blackwolf's wife since Susan Tyrrell voiced them) meant that the fairy, Elinore, bid her father farewell at his _funeral_, indicated by the still-tableaux of her kneeled at his tombstone.

A real mistake in this film is when a fairy says, "Blackmark's armies come again!" The antagonist's name is Blackwolf, not 'Blackmark'.

[–] eperez-7 18 years ago

I watched this movie for the first time just recently. I heard that it had a tight budget, but it seemed most evident to me when I noticed that much of the movie was stills and narration, it felt very incomplete. The effects behind the throne where good, but I grew weary of the rotoscoping soldiers in this movie. To tell the truth, I had my fill of rotoscoping soldiers since I saw the LOTR.

[–] themill 18 years ago

Personally, I thought the rotoscoping was a cool touch (I've experimented with it myself, it's so much fun!), but it certainly added to the disjointed feeling of the film. For me, it's better to think of this movie in terms of its parts rather than as a whole. A lot of really cool things are being done, but they hardly ever flow together well.

[–] tetsuo 18 years ago

Same here,

I think depends on the movie you are doing but I think rotoscoping works for the most part.

And this is one of the best movies I have seen, a lot of feeling and done on a tight budget quite amazing.

And the plot is quite imaginative, unfortunately lacking in a lot of movies lately.

[–] kersus 18 years ago

I don't know the budget for Wizards, but LOTR had a high budget for this type of film and broke some record at the time... possibly just for animated movies. I'd have to find the old movie program I have to see what the record was. Certainly they ran out of money, and it's low to today's standards. As for Wizards, it was different, which is why its on my shelf.

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