Leslie Browne


What did people think of Leslie Browne's acting?

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I found her incredibly irritating.

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I found her incredibly irritating.

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Please elaborate. What about her acting was irritating?

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What's to elaborate? I found both her and her character irritating.

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Flat out terrible. I consider this the worst Oscar nomination ever, well, from what I've seen anyway whiich is quite alot. The girl is just inept for the role and the film suffers a little as a result.

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I have to agree. I was actually surprised to find out that both her and Baryshnikov were nominated. It was problaby similiar to why they did give an oscar to Jennifer Hudson for Dreamgirls: While the acting was mediocre at best the voters bought the buzz about her voice. While here it was about the dancing.

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I have to agree that her dancing was wonderful, but her acting was stiff. She had more character pretending to be a Russian artist than an American daughter.

Why ain't you at the garden party you heathen?

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Totally agree! I found her acting laughably bad (at one point she enters a room, puts down a box, shouts 'Emma!' THEN turns to see Anne Bancroft's character Emma), until that bar scene. She was hilarious in that. As soon as she dances though, wow!

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I haven't seen the film yet, but i'm currently reading DANCING ON MY GRAVE by Misha's then partner, ballerina Gelsey Kirkland & she wrote she was the one first approached to play this part. But she had such an intense bout of "artistic integrity" (she thought the film would give a cliched, incorrect portrayal of the ballet world & its artists) that she did all she could to lose the role. She did. She finished by mentioning in passing (with some read-between-the lines irony) that Leslie was Herbert Ross' godfather...
"Artistically" speaking, she might've been right in her refusal to play this role. But Misha played his part & got an Oscar nomination. You wonder who's a winner & who's a loser. I will watch the film when i'm done with this (highly recommended) book.

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Jesus, I didn't even remember that she was nominated. No, that was a nomination that surely belonged to someone else. She was a lovely young woman (and funny in the drunk scene) but she didn't bring anything, acting-wise, to that part. In fact, it was pretty hard to believe that she was a midwestern girl or the daughter of Tom Skeritt and Shirley MacLaine, even if she had had ballet lessons.

Supporting Actress:
VANESSA REDGRAVE in "Julia", Leslie Browne in "The Turning Point", Quinn Cummings in "The Goodbye Girl", Melinda Dillon in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", Tuesday Weld in "Looking for Mr. Goodbar"

Redgrave gave the infamous acceptance speech about "Zionist hoodlums" but looking at the competition, she was the right winner, by far, given the weak competition in this category for 1977.

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I also did not care for her performance, acting-wise, in this movie. Baryshnikov was better, but still not nomination-worthy. But both of of their dancing, particulary his, was magnificent.

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I thought Quinn Cummings was amazing.

I thought Leslie Browne was irritating. I also thought she was Julie Haggerty.

...and I am just going to have to feel this way until I DON'T feel this way ANYMORE!

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She was cloying in The Turning Point but not half bad in 1987's Dancers, playing a cynical veteran dancer. I didn't recognize her. But Gelsey Kirkland was a thousand times a better dancer, I can't imagine her playing the naive small-town ingenue.


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"Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"

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She wasn't quite as bad as I was expecting; the character would demand little of any actress, and Browne didn't much right or wrong with the role; she danced just fine (not that I can judge ballet) and otherwise kind of faded into the background. Her drunk scene was, I suppose, decently believable, but it didn't demand any real acting.

Baryshnikov made even less of an impression.

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I guess the Razzies must not have existed back then.

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It is baffling—well not really, being the academy—that Browne got nominated support for this and Sissy Spacek gets ignored for one of her best performances, in Robert Altman's 3 WOMEN.

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she's not an actress. her role was really peripheral to the stars' and to give them a justifiable vehicle. Leslie Browne was in the film to interact w/ baryishnikov. So who cares that she can't act? it wasn't her movie.

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So who cares that she can't act? it wasn't her movie.

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She received an 'undeserved' supp oscar® nom, that appears to have been given to her, just for dancing. There were more deserving contenders.

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no disputing those facts. but hollywood has always had it's whore-like moments, and that was one of them. It was a 'dance year' and probably political. Don't forget, Baryshnikov had just defected (to Canada, in I think 1974) so it was America's way of telling the then soviet union, "ha ha... he's ours now."

Yes, she was stiff as a board... but gratefully, she didn't win. Vanessa Redgrave, the winner, was almost in the field alone. (Did Quinn Cummings deserve her nomination?)

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(Did Quinn Cummings deserve her nomination?)
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I only watched GOODBYE GIRL in it's entirety, recently for the first time. Wasn't that enraptured with the film, although I can see why it was popular in it's time. Cummings was adequate and I could even say, she may have stole the show from Dreyfuss and Mason; but I doubt she would have been no more praise worthy, than what any other bratty kid actor could have done at the time. What is indisputable, is that she was more worthy of her nomination than what Browne was.





...hollywood has always had it's whore-like moments, and that was one of them.
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Agreed. TURNING POINT was a star vehicle for Bancroft and MacLaine. Baryshnikov and Browne, got caught up in the hype of the film and the politics of the industry. It is nice for them to have been part of it and I don't decry them for getting nominated, just the Academy for being undiscerning and allowing nominations, primarily for dancing performances. Acting is acting, not dancing or sometimes even singing.

I would strike TURNING POINT, GOODBYE GIRL & JULIA from the BP nominees for 77' and replace them with, SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS & 3 WOMEN. I would have replaced Browne, with Donna Pescow 'Saturday Night Fever' and even given her a win.

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YES! I agree w/ you on all the films that should have been included and omitted.

Let's not forget, too, that Browne is Herbert Ross's goddaughter... so that didn't hurt her appearance, either, or nomination. ;-(

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Let's not forget, too, that Browne is Herbert Ross's goddaughter..
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I had a notion, that there was some connection between Ross and Browne. The nomination goes without saying then. Ross was on a roll 77' with both 'Turning Point' and 'Goodbye Girl', in the running for BP. He would have had much influence. Popularity reigns supreme in Hollywood and as much as the oscars® can be fun to follow, they are "subjective and random", (in the words of Cate Blanchett), therefore, ultimately meaningless.

Of my list of nominees for BP 77':

ANNIE HALL
CLOSE ENCOUNTERS
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER
STAR WARS
3 WOMEN

I would choose 'Saturday Night Fever' for BP. I know this is likely a minority opinion; but it is a contemporary film, that truly embraces it era and attitudes, with realistic—though not always relateable—characters and I always find it a pleasure to watch.

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Of those films, the only one I've never seen is 3 Women. I saw all the others when they came out... in fact, I grew up in the very neighborhood in which was set, and Lenny's Pizza is still my 'go to' when i'm in Brookly. (oh, so old!) Coincidentally, I have a friend who was once married to karen lynn gorney -- so i'm sure he'd say <Ken Golden> that SNF was the best film.

I'd vote for Close Encounters. I'm a sci fi buff, but also, it's just such a great film... But, then of course, Star Wars... Oy such decisions! And then the classic Annie...

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I'd vote for Close Encounters.
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Tough Call! I like how you have chose 'Close Encounters', because for sometime, it was my first choice. 'Star Wars' and 'Close Encounters' are classics; but have a slight dated aspect (Star Wars more so), hanging over them. 'SNF' and 'Annie Hall', could be considered dated looking, due to the contemporary 70's period depiction; but connect with their era so well and stylistically, they still hold up today. Woody Allen is either love or hate and I think it's win was maybe a little way out left field. SNF, has always been a perennial favorite of many and still holds up well today, with it's gritty and raw characters and tale.

3 WOMEN, is a favorite of mine and I only saw a few years ago for the first time. It is so unusual and different, even a little weird, I couldn't shake it of for a while. I see it as a film about loneliness and connection and the acting is superb. Shelly Duvall is heartbreaking and very real, natural and also funny in a peculiar way. At times, I felt like I was laughing at her and not with her and felt cruel for doing so; but she is also someone I would want to be friends with in a second. Without giving too much away, there is a scene when she snaps and gets angry and it is a raw emotion that comes out of the moment, next she is so distressed and dejected, I wanted to reach right out and hug her. Sissy Spacek is funny and creepy, all rolled into one.

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I have zero memory or knowledge of 3 women, but I'm going to look for it on your recommendation. Just looked at the cast -- I love all three women (Janice Rule is such a class act.) Shelly Duvall is a bit (to me) of an odd duck -- but I do like her. I LOVE Sissy. Such a fine actress.

Hopefully, I'll find it somewhere.

Well, now that we have 1977 sewn up... we need to pick on another year!

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(Janice Rule is such a class act.)

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Rule is a quiet, reticent, observant presence in this film and her face speaks a thousand things. The film is very symbolic too and although I have not seen all of Robert Altman's films, it unfolds more fluidly and not hectic and crammed, like some of his others I have seen. Quite enigmatic though.

If you can think of another year, where you feel that the academy got most of the noms wrong and would change a few, I would be keen to hear.

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I loved her in it, she is a great actress and totally deserved a nomination, and I feel her and Quinn Cummings both deserved to win that year.

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I loved her in it, she is a great actress and totally deserved a nomination.......
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What exactly is it, that makes her a "great" actress?

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Preetty awful, she had the same weird smile on her face al the time. The dancing was very good.

Anne Bancroft and Shirley MacClaine were very good though, I specially fell for Bancrofts character.

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The dancing was very good.
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Hence, her 'undeserved' Oscar® nomination.



...she had the same weird smile on her face al the time.
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Like she was performing one of her dances; but she forgot she wasn't on stage all the time and was in front of the camera, doing straight forward dramatic acting.



Anne Bancroft and Shirley MacClaine were very good though
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They were worth a watch together; but I feel there were far more deserving female performances from this year, that should have got nominations over these two. TURNING POINT, was about 'prestige' value and one of the main reasons the academy honoured it with 10 nominations. Unless you are into ballet, or MacClaine or Bancroft, it doesn't make up a large part of the film going psyche. Films like SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, were more worthy nods for Best Picture 77'.

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Oh, me too! Anne Bancroft was superb in this, such a lovely performance. I just saw it again, and there's a scene where she's in her dressing room with a married man with whom she's been having a NSA affair for years. She's always declined his offers to divorce his wife and marry her. But now that she's seeing the end of her career, she's rethinking it and encourages him to ask again, to which he points out that now he likes the arrangement as it is. As he leaves the room, there's a close up on Bancroft's face, which goes slowly through a range of emotions, from realization of what he's said to fear. It's incredible.

(And while Leslie Browne was a good dancer, her acting talent was quite slender; she did not deserve an Oscar nomination.)

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I thought Leslie Browne was beautiful and enchanting. I loved her performance in this film.

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