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What are the primary differences between the three Star Wars trilogies (Original, Prequel, Sequel)


As far as tone, atmosphere, theme, types of stories, types of characters, how they were made, etc.?

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Why don’t YOU tell us ?

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Either the OP can't quite articulate it or has a report due in some film studies course.

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lol

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I'm asking you, I'm not here to TELL YOU! That's why it's a question!

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Try Googling it, you may have more luck! You can’t just rely on us to get all the info.

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The last time that I checked, this is a message board, not Google! Why are you here then if you don't want to answer the question!? Saying "just Google it" is the most patronizing thing you could ever tell a person. If I already knew, then I probably wouldn't bother starting such a thread in the very first place.

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Delete it then, if it’s such a problem.

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The original trilogy made more interesting stories, because jedis/siths force abilities were more limited. Now, especially in the Disney trilogy, anything seems to be possible. Pacing of the Disney trilogy is crap, there's no tone or atmosphere. And lets not forget CGI overload. Special effects shots used to be more expensive in the 70's and 80's, so they had to make every shot count and use them sparingly, and in general put more thought into them. Show value of CGI lost its impact 20 years ago.

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The original was good, the prequel blah, and the Sequel meh.

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Original Trilogy: Fun, original, great action scenes, good character development, well-told, kinda grim at times, special-effects sort of hold up.

Prequel Trilogy: Fun, not quite as good, both good and bad acting, cheesy dialogue, but helps to explain a lot that happened before the OT. Good special-effects, great costumes, fun action scenes, and an interesting glimpse into the galaxy before the Empire took over.

Sequel Trilogy: Chaotic, stupid, poorly-written, drags on the coattails of the OT, bad acting, no plan at all with story-telling, breaks canon every chance it gets, glorifies the lead and gives her everything without her having to work for it, insults and degrades Luke, as well as making the OT characters look old, faded, and forgotten, has no real direction beyond fanfiction-level good vs. bad setup.

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I agree with your evaluation of the OT, although I'd say that the SFX hold up completely with maybe one or two rare exceptions.

I didn't really find the prequels that fun though. Maybe Phantom Menace, but Attack of the Clones was bogged down by the insipid love plot and Revenge of the Sith felt a bit like a chore. I'm not a fan, and I think the story was poorly done enough that it either does nothing for the expansion of the mythology or sometimes even hurts it.

As for the sequels, they're individually bad. They are bad in different ways. TFA is a fun film, I'll stand by that, and did show a lot of promise. The new characters are neat for the most part, even if Rey is over-powered. It's derivative, though, and cribs too much from the original film. The Last Jedi had great ideas and aspirations but butchered the potential with a miserable execution. The concept of a Star Wars film that muddies the morality, changes our conceptions of main characters, and challenges assumptions about the lone hero, cocky and powerful, sounds great. But it is a screaming mess. Still, it does have some golden moments (a lot of Mark Hamill's stuff - the three seconds he does train Rey, for instance, or when R2 shows him the hologram - there are other scattered moments). The finale was rubbish. A bunch of fetch quests edited so fast to try and blink out the innumberable plot holes. It felt fun at parts, and had a couple good scenes or moments. I resent a lack of consequences throughout the film as well as its idiocy in resurrecting the big bad. But if we're giving the PT points for costumes, SFX, action scenes, etc., then the ST qualifies, too.

Overall, it was an aimless slog through a committee's mandates.

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I was born 3 years after ROTJ came out, so I never had a chance to experience the first movies the way the first wave of fans did. Closest I ever got was in '97 when they digitally re-mastered the OT.

I was a teenager when the prequels came out, they are special to me. It was so much fun to be there when the prequel trilogy came onscreen. I really don't care what people think or say about them, because it was a thrilling (if slightly disappointing) ride when they came out in theaters. And for the record, everybody was excited and went crazy about these films when they were first released. The whiners didn't come about until 3-5 years after ROTS was released and the prequels were over with.

All of the movies of the sequel trilogy suck. At first, with "The Force Awakens," people were blinded by the new special-effects, the fun adventures, new characters, finally seeing some of our favorite characters from the OT, all that....but something felt off about it. Later viewings revealed that it was just a re-hash of "A New Hope," and something didn't feel right about the story, or the new characters.

TLJ felt like getting punched in the face and laughed at while your best friend was being beat up in front of you, and nobody wants to help them. It was disgustingly condescending, and either answered questions from the first movie with non-answers or answers nobody wanted to hear or believe. There were also a lot of cruel fakeouts with this shitshow of a film. Small wonder Ruin Johnson got no less than 3 million death threats on opening day. They probably still continue to this day. That movie was so bad, I refused to watch any other sequel trilogy films, and I'm glad I didn't!

From what I heard, the third story was a huge mess, with a lot of shoddy "fix Asshole Johnson's damage" going on. My dad and brother pushed really hard to make me go with them to see it, but I not only refused, I threatened to make their lives hell if they dared drag me to the theater. They finally gave in and went to see it without me, and after all was said and done, they finally agreed the ST was a gigantic pile of crap, no thanks to Kathleen Kennedy.

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I can dig that. You grow up with something, it's going to be special, or more special than it is or would be otherwise.

If it weren't for the Star Wars brand, the prequels might have just been strange, sci-fi films to me where they had this elect-a-queen universe and laser swords. But I can't divorce the two. They did have fun moments, but overall I just thought they lacked a lot and felt very sterile with the CGI backdrops and humdrum dialogue, and so forth. There aren't many criticisms I could give voice to that you won't have heard already.

TFA, I maintain, was fun, too. It was committee-built and it showed and that clinical behind-the-scenes hurt it. It made me appreciate the prequels' attempts at original directions; that was the first positive I had thought of the PT in years. But it was still, by itself, a fun movie. I didn't like Han's devolution, either. It was a JJ Abrams film: brain off, fun on.

TLJ had good concepts and then just executed them poorly and in that way it was a lot like the PT, from my perspective, anyway. Some of the non-answers I found frustrating, I hated a lot of what he did with Luke (although I liked some Luke stuff, mostly because of Hamill), and it was just a badly done script filled with plotholes, character inconsistencies, and aggravation - as you say. I really dislike the film, but I do credit it with its rare baubles of good stuff hidden inside. But, yes, they were overwhelmed by junk.

And I'm sad Johnson got death threats. I bet he tried his hardest at an impossible task (breathe life into a saga where you can't please the fans). He's a good filmmaker, too, TLJ aside. And even if he was Uwe Boll-level bad he still deserves no death threats.

I take it you haven't seen TRoS? It was...messy, yeah. Fetch-quests and backpaddling for most of it. A few neat action scenes and one or two cool character moments (almost all involving Adam Driver), but yeah, bad. He shouldn't have "fixed" TLJ's problems the way he did.

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the fx. the heroes. the third trilogy does not use the normal every day star wars aliens found in the first two trilogies.

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TONE: OT maintains, mostly, a spirit of old adventure serials, but manages to blend it quite nicely with some borrowed Eastern mysticism (or pseudo-mysticism). It presented the future as "lived-in" (I've heard Lucas had to fight to convince designers to scuff up the props and sets). It is optimistic, but has darkness on the edges.

PT's tone is wonky. It oscillates between cartoony kids' stuff to political drama to dark tragedy and back, often at whiplash speeds. There's a moment in the making-of documentary where they're talking about The Phantom Menace after a first-cut screening and one of the production team members points out to Lucas, "In a space of about 90 seconds, you go from lamenting the death of a hero to escape to slightly comedic with Jar Jar to Anakin returning ... It's a lot in a very short time." That's just one moment from one movie. Phantom Menace can't even pick a main character but is geared towards kids, Attack of the Clones is a (crummy) love story and a political thriller, not well-blended, and Revenge of the Sith is a dark tragedy. In short: the tone is mish-mash, hodge-podge, and all over the place.

ST also switches tones, but not quite so radically. The first film's tone is quite similar to the OT's tone of "adventure serial", but it does feel a little forced. It's committee-built. The second film tries to maintain the adventure feel, but undercut it at the same time. This was seamless in Empire Strikes Back where the adventure just got darker, but here it's too deliberate and, again, feels forced. Plus, The Last Jedi throws in wacky comedy played deadpan (the lightsabre flip, the crank call from the x-wing, etc.) and drops those moments into otherwise serious scenes or as icebreakers (in Episode VIII of IX - we need no icebreakers). The final film feels rushed. It feels like it's trying to be light, fun, but intense - again, aiming at adventure - but this time around it feels like it never stops to take a breath.

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Atmosphere:

I sort of covered this in "tone". I'm not sure how to parse the difference. The originals have a bit of that great '70s grit, fly-on-the-wall vibe mixed in with throwback/nostalgia/Flash Gordon stuff. It's pretty light at first, gets dark with Empire, and maintains a lot of that throughout Jedi (mitigated/reduced by Ewoks, of course).

PT's atmosphere gets darker over the course of the series. It starts as a kids' film (with weird elements of adult stuff mixed in), moves to a(n inexplicably) forbidden love story, and finishes with a very grim finale (although one whose grimness feels a bit forced to me).

The atmosphere of the sequels might be the most uniform. Good or bad? I leave that to you. They have pretty similar levels of light-dark and a consistent level of fun vs. grim.

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THEME:

OT: Lots to cover here. It's the hero's journey, expanded. The first film Luke goes from farm boy dreamer to hero, the in No.2 from hero to would-be Jedi who has his whole universe turned upside-down by the end, and then he goes from Jedi to saviour who is more concerned with saving a soul than lives. It's a beautiful arc that goes from a glory-seeking desire to have an adventure into an introspective journey of self-discovery and focusing on what really matters. OT gets enough into mysticism to have a flavour of depth. It has themes of self-discovery, family, heroism, good vs. evil, redemption, sacrifice, love (of a couple different kinds (with Luke and Leia's kiss...maybe one kind too many), and probably a bunch of stuff I'm leaving out. I'd say family, self-discovery, and redemption are the biggest themes. Most of them are blended well, too.

PT: Overriding arc is that of a hero's fall from grace. It combines this with the fall of a republic/ demise of democracy, and chronicles the end of an era of peace. It explores how darkness and emotions can overwhelm oneself. None of this is well-executed - the political stuff feels particularly clumsy - but those are the themes.

ST: It puts a lot into "self-discovery". Rey really wants to know who she is. I would say it also has themes of belonging, denial, friendship, and...I dunno "the past catches up with us". The themes here feel less well-integrated and, again, are often not particularly well executed.

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