Gay Character? - Rituals Discussion

[–] edwstraker 15 years ago

Absolutely he was gay and all of the other characters knew and had no problem with it. Makes sense. The movie was made by Canadians who started on the path of recognizing gay-straight equality in the late 60's when our PM Pierre Trudeau said "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation". Can you imagine a US president saying that even today 40 years later? Canadians just legalized gay marriage country-wide while US folks did Prop 8. This being said I wonder if I'm attributing too much of a gay positive attitude to my fellow Canadians (the ones that made the film). They made the gay character an alcoholic. Obviously he was tortured. Also this same character had one of his appendages broken by jaws with big teeth. In order to survive, this disfunctional appendage had to be "straightened" out. I love the movies....so many possible interpretations. One that lingers from the movie.... even as his appendage was being corrected, the gay character had a great sense of humour!

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[–] Squonkamatic 15 years ago

Marty is gay, yes.

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[–] lauriescreams 15 years ago

Rituals is actually ahead of its time by featuring a gay character in this manner. It is also very classy about the way the character is portrayed in relation to the other men - as one of the group.

It is strange that horror movies, which are often reviled, can actually be at the forefront of enforcing positive social values.

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[–] AlbertTheFlasher 15 years ago

Yes, definitely. Martin was a strong character and wasn't afraid to stand up for himself. When Mitzi was threatening him, he said "I've been beaten up in toilets by better men than you!" Great line.

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[–] Otkon 12 years ago

No, most guys with boyfriends are not supposed to be gay.

Yes, he was gay.

But what pisses me off is that you clearly have trouble seeing that a gay man could be a butch, outdoorsy doctor/one of the guys. When he so nonchalantly mentions in conversation that his boyfriend is a nutjob, none of the others even blink an eye - which is simply fantastic. Although I am not sure any of the others discuss more than medical procedures or their military tours.

Perhaps if Martin had a lisp, pink hiking shorts and a sissified fear of the woods, that would have fit more easily with your preconceived fallacies about what constitutes a gay guy.

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[–] ConnerysToupee 11 years ago

I don't think the OP was being critical or demeaning about the movie having a gay character. He was just asking.

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[–] puirt-a-beul 10 years ago

But what pisses me off is that you clearly have trouble seeing that a gay man could be a butch, outdoorsy doctor/one of the guys.

It's not so clear, matey. The OP asked a simple, non-judgemental question — he could be quite approving of the fact that one of the characters is gay, and the movie doesn't make an issue of it, or drag in any of the stereotypes you're (understandably) bothered by.

You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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[–] DaveHedgehog 10 years ago

Yeah I think it was a totally innocent question. I think it would catch most people off-guard because it's so naturally placed in there and he's not gay to serve a purpose - it's not there for a plot point or to display a stereotype. I think it's great - though strange - that something that small is included in a film from 1977. Yet sadly is almost non-existent in films/TV today.

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[–] Thought_Criminal_J62377 8 years ago

I don't know what you're watching, but gays are everywhere in movies and TV today.

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[–] UpperEastSider 8 years ago

As they should be...because they are just as much a part of our society as anyone else is.

Hope changes everything.

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[–] UpperEastSider 8 years ago

Actually, you're stepping on your own toes by presenting yourself as exactly that - a shameful embarrassment to humanity.

You're a rude, hateful and blissfully ignorant man-child..and the fact that you're pretentious about it makes it even worse.

Hope changes everything.

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[–] Thought_Criminal_J62377 8 years ago

You're a rude, hateful and blissfully ignorant man-child..and the fact that you're pretentious about it makes it even worse.

These accusations are exactly the opposite of reality. Don't sit back and act all innocent now nancy-boy, you've been stalking and slandering me since the first time we crossed paths.

You started this and you keep it going.

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[–] UpperEastSider 8 years ago

These accusations are exactly the opposite of reality

Really? Because your posts beg to differ. My statements are based solely off of the words that you type with your fingers. If you feel as if your are wrongly perceived, then should really stop misrepresenting yourself.

Don't sit back and act all innocent now nancy-boy, you've been stalking and slandering me since the first time we crossed paths

Tell me, Johhny -- When was the last time you and I have crossed paths? Don't even bother pulling the "Stalker!" card unless you can actually prove that I've done what you claim. Funny how you love accusing people of "slander" when all it really is, is one calling you out on the slander that you have first thrown toward someone else.

Don't dish it out if your can't take it, Johnny.

Hope changes everything.

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[–] Thought_Criminal_J62377 8 years ago

Tell me, Johhny -- When was the last time you and I have crossed paths? Don't even bother pulling the "Stalker!" card unless you can actually prove that I've done what you claim.

You're seriously gonna deny this? 2 or 3 months ago(my best guess), you went through my history and shadowed me with your twisted and critical replies. You literally went post by post for weeks. It was so odd when you stopped that I wondered if something tragic had befallen you, because I saw no end in sight. It was the strangest thing.

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[–] UpperEastSider 8 years ago

You're seriously gonna deny this? 2 or 3 months ago(my best guess), you went through my history and shadowed me with your twisted and critical replies. You literally went post by post for weeks. It was so odd when you stopped that I wondered if something tragic had befallen you, because I saw no end in sight. It was the strangest thing.

Never, would I ever have guessed that you were such a drama queen 

I do admit to looking at your profile once and responding to some of your insanely ignorant, vacuous, grade school-level comments but I never shadowed you or went "post by post".

Hope changes everything.

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[–] Thought_Criminal_J62377 8 years ago

I do admit to looking at your profile once

You just won't admit to the rest, because for weeks you kept replying to completely separate posts. And it doesn't make me a drama queen to complain about you stalking me. Why would I not complain about a flaming homosexual who shadows me and refutes everything I say?

I've never clicked on your profile to chase you down and present a contentious reply, whenever you post. But then again, I have a life and don't care enough about you or your deviant attitudes to feel the need. And I don't have the time to argue with all your garbage. It's plenty clear that you're deeply invested in the welfare of the homosexual agenda, for you to go to these lengths.

Tolerance Is Intolerant Of Politically Incorrect Thought...🇺🇸

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[–] UpperEastSider 8 years ago

You just won't admit to the rest, because for weeks you kept replying to completely separate posts. And it doesn't make me a drama queen to complain about you stalking me. Why would I not complain about a flaming homosexual who shadows me and refutes everything I say?

I admitted to all that was true. The fact that you've somehow dreamt that I was following you for weeks, isn't my problem. I'm sure you've made plenty of enemies here, considering the amount of ignorant drivel you continue to spout off, so I wouldn't be surprised if you've mistaken me for another user.

I'm fascinated, though, as to why you assume I'm a Homosexual. I know that you and I have had heated arguments in the past about the subject, however, one does not have to be Gay in order to argue vehemently favor of Gay rights (and common decency, which is obviously a foreign concept to you). Even if I was, what would that have to do with the conversation? Would it make my statements less valid? Would it make my supposed "stalking" more intimidating to you?

I've never clicked on your profile to chase you down and present a contentious reply, whenever you post. But then again, I have a life and don't care enough about you or your deviant attitudes to feel the need. And I don't have the time to argue with all your garbage. It's plenty clear that you're deeply invested in the welfare of the homosexual agenda, for you to go to these lengths.

You "don't care", yet, you're here and still arguing two days later. Looks to me like you care a little more than you think you do, especially since you make a special effort to piss and moan about these types of things on every forum I've seen you on. It's plenty clear that you're incredibly passionate about your ignorance and how it fuels your morbid obsession with the "homosexual agenda", for you to go to these lengths. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here.

Hope changes everything.

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[–] Thought_Criminal_J62377 8 years ago

You "don't care", yet, you're here and still arguing two days later.

You're an idiot, because it's perfectly clear that I meant I haven't looked at your profile to see your other posts, because I DON'T CARE about you. I do, however, care about freaks (like you) misrepresenting me and I will rebut a moronic reply, of which you provide an infinite supply.

I've heard that fellaters can suffer brain damage due to semen backing up into their skulls, so maybe that's your excuse for substandard cognition.

I stand on the rest of my previous post. Your only recourse now is to deny that you literally shadowed me for a period of time, not just once. Which explains how you arrived here and decided to continue making the world less intelligent with your gay crusade.

There's more to life than IMDb, UpperBackDoorer, go see if you can catch aids or something, best of luck...

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[–] UpperEastSider 8 years ago

You're an idiot, because it's perfectly clear that I meant I haven't looked at your profile to see your other posts, because I DON'T CARE about you. I do, however, care about freaks (like you) misrepresenting me and I will rebut a moronic reply, of which you provide an infinite supply.

You're the idiot, here, trying to make others accountable for "misrepresenting" you, when the only one misrepresenting yourself is you. Only YOU are accountable for what YOU say, not others and if you don't like the back-lash that you constantly receive for the idiocy that you're constantly spouting, then it would behoove you to be consciously aware of your words and what they mean. You know...since you care so much about how other perceive you.

I've heard that fellaters can suffer brain damage due to semen backing up into their skulls, so maybe that's your excuse for substandard cognition.

Hear-say or first-hand? That sounds very unfortunate, either way. So, what's your excuse? Are you willfully ignorant and incredibly stupid or are you holding your up-bringing accountable for that?

I stand on the rest of my previous post. Your only recourse now is to deny that you literally shadowed me for a period of time, not just once. Which explains how you arrived here and decided to continue making the world less intelligent with your gay crusade.

And I'll stand with my previous statement -- I've admitted to all that was true. I wasn't "shadowing" you for a period of time. You certainly make your way around these boards and of course you can never resist the opportunity to passionately, yet ignorantly (of course) express your disdain for anything that is pro-Gay, pro-Equality, pro-diversity, pro-human decency, pro-reality, etc. I'm here because this movie has been on my 'watch list', so I come to forum and there you are -- continuing to make the world less intelligent with anti-Gay crusade.

There's more to life than IMDb, UpperBackDoorer, go see if you can catch aids or something, best of luck...

And the idiocy never ceases. Thanks for proving my point, Johnny. You never fail to do so 

Hope changes everything.

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