OSCARS 1978


This movie is so underrated!!!I definitely think both Robert De Niro and Lizza Minelli deserved oscar nods and NEW YORK/NEW YORK should have won the oscar of the best original song as well.

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Minnelli deserved a nomination but not DeNiro. This is one of the only films I've seen him in that I think he is NOT that good. The movie is not underrated. If it weren't for Minnelli this movie would really be very very boring. It's cold as ice. She supplies the only heat.

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Minnelli deserved a nomination but not DeNiro. This is one of the only films I've seen him in that I think he is NOT that good.

Well that's where you are wrong. It's one of Robert DeNiro's best performances.



"Ça va by me, madame...Ça va by me!" - The Red Shoes

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There's no right or wrong. It's my opinion.

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Well since you din't say why his performance was bad than it's not an opinion. It's a statement and quite false to anyone who's seen the film with clarity.





"Ça va by me, madame...Ça va by me!" - The Red Shoes

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i thought deniro did a good job. its just that the character of jimmy was really limited.

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In what sense? Jimmy Doyle is certainly not conventionally likable or conventionally affable. He's insecure, pompous but also highly charming. And it is that charm which Francine is attracted to. Moreover it stems from him being highly emotional and emotionally honest. Like I remember one girl saying that their marriage scene in this film is the most romantic and special marraige she had ever seen in films. The reason being it's so unconventional.



"Ça va by me, madame...Ça va by me!" - The Red Shoes

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that's why the character of jimmy is limited. his charm is the only real ace in his sleeve. talented, maybe, but not really a guy who knew how to open doors for himself. i will say he was a better man by the end of the film. deniro did what he could with this character. i just didn't find jimmy to be particularly interesting or strong.

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But you are not saying the character is limited. You are just listing his flaws. Which is not the way to judge limitations of roles. Indeed the most creative roles for actors are the ones who are highly flawed.



"Ça va by me, madame...Ça va by me!" - The Red Shoes

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Oh, yes I had my rose colored glasses on that day so I did not see the film with clarity. I humbly apologize. By the way, I've never heard of the word "din't" in the English language. Please clarify.

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Nothing to clarify. It's a typo.

In any case if your only argument is grammatical error then you clearly don't have good reasons for calling DeNiro's performance bad. So you proved my point.



"Ça va by me, madame...Ça va by me!" - The Red Shoes

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You are such a smart person!

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"new york, new york" is a decent film, yet i feel the deniro character is limited. there just simply not a lot to do with such an unbendable character. thing is, all our opinions are right, because we own them:)

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I really though this film was underrated. Both the leading actors are great -- though Liza is greater. It is not cold as ice, well some parts are, but they should be. And the whole story just got me right through the end.

Besides, I never really love Scorsese's work until this one came...

What made the universe made me.

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De Niro does his performance brilliant in this film!

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De Niro was amazing, as always!

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People!!! Let's talk about the biggest Oscar injustice of 1978: that the title song: "Theme from New York, New York" was not even nominated for best song.

And what song won that year? That omnipresent piece of drek "You Light Up My Life", sung by that ubervirgin Debbie Boone, spawn of cryptonazi Pat. Everytime you turned on the radio in 1978, that song was playing, reducing the nation to bulimia while trying to maintain control of an automobile. I'm sure many deaths and travesty can be attributed to it.

Meanwhile, "Theme from NY, NY" has proven to be an inspiring and beloved anthem.

That it was not nominated caused me to question the Academy for the first time and to truly test my belief in God. Those were long years in the wilderness for me.

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The movie doesn't add up to much, but Minelli does some nice singing - especially in the last half hour or so. De Niro does a lot of his improv that used to work well in Mean Streets and Taxi Driver, but he goed a bit over the top.

It just doesn't work with this character and this script. And there no real chemistry between him and Minelli, who seems out of place whenever she's not on stage doing a number.

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I like this movie and I think that both Minelli and De Niro were great in this one.


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In 1977, this movie was easily my favorite, and while I did not question my belief in God when the Oscar nominations were announced, I definitely questioned the sanity of the Academy voters.

In a perfect world, "New York, New York" would have received these Oscar nominations:

Best Picture
Best Actress (Minnelli)
Best Actor (DeNiro)
Best Director (Scorsese)
Best Song "Theme From New York, New York"*
Best Song "'But The World Goes Round"*
Best Costumes (Ms. Van Runkle was ROBBED--Minnelli and DeNiro have never been more glam on screen)
Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
Best Cinematography
Best Sound
Best Original Song Score/Adaptation or Best Adaptation Score (the Oscar went to the film version of "A Little Night Music"; the omission of a nomination here and in the Best Song categories really underscore the DISLIKE the Academy had for this film, particularly if you research past nominees in both of these musical categories--you'll be shocked at what made it in and indeed what WON over the years)
Best Editing (a long shot due to length issues, but since we're dreaming...)

Realistically, due to the amount of improv in the film, I don't think it had a real shot at a Screenplay Oscar. And while I enjoyed Lionel Stander, Georgie Auld and the hilarious Mary Kay Place, their roles aren't really meaty enough for Supporting nods (possible exceptions being Stander and, if more of her scenes had made it into the final cut, Place).

Guess that's it. A total of 12. And maybe Liza would have gotten to make more movie musicals. We'll never know.

* To this day, after the failure to nominate one or both of these songs--which have gone on to become bonafide classics--I have never taken this Oscar category seriously. Just ain't possible. This should just eliminate it entirely out of shame.

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The did act very well, but it's difficult to win in a not so good movie that many avoided even seeing.

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