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Jason Robards + Oscar


As with his win the previous year for All The President's Men, i fail to see why Jason Robards won an Oscar for this. Anybody agree/disagree??

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Like Spencer Tracy, Robards made acting look effortless.

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Anyone could have made his character look effortless. His character hardly did anything.

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I thought both of Jason Robards' Oscars were richly deserved. I also would have nominated him for THE BALLD OF CABLE HOGUE and MAGNOLIA, but I digress. I remember when I first saw JULIA in the theaters, I couldn't believe how amazing Robards was...I remember saying to myself that he deserves Best Supporting Actor again and I never thought they would give it to him because he won the previous year. but they did. I think both performances were on the money and how many actors have won two Oscars for playing real-life figures? I'm pretty sure he was the only one but if someone else did, fill me in.

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I can't for the life of me understand why he got an Oscar for this. He was barely in the movie. All he did was sit on his butt in a beach chair smoking. Frankly, I am shocked that the movie managed to get the Oscars it did. Best Screenplay? Give me a break. Vanessa Redgrave was barely in the movie either.

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by thatsnumberwang » Tue Jun 5 2007 13:58:15 Flag ▼ | Reply |
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I can't for the life of me understand why he got an Oscar for this. He was barely in the movie. All he did was sit on his butt in a beach chair smoking. Frankly, I am shocked that the movie managed to get the Oscars it did. Best Screenplay? Give me a break. Vanessa Redgrave was barely in the movie either.


Agreed! He was barely in the movie. This is shocking to me too. The few scenes he was in the movie; however, he did a great job, though! 

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Maximilian Schell's showier performance may be a shade better, but Robards is very good indeed in his subtle, touching performance.

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I thought Jane Fonda should have got the Oscar for "Julia". Mr Robards performance was good but hardly outstanding and though I am a huge admirer of Vanessa Redgrave I have seen her give better performances. In fact I echo the poster who said she was hardly in it.

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I agree partly with you - I do not agree he deserved the Oscar for Julia , but considering the weak lack of nominees that year, it is not surprising. His competition was Peter Firth in Equss - young nominee ( he did win the Golden Globe ) Mikhail Baryshnikov in the boring Turning Point ( I'm sorry - I do not even know why he was nominated) He is a brilliant dancer, not so much an actor. Alec Guinness for Star Wars- superb actor ,but I think since he won before and it was a popular " popcorn" movie - it was prob the nomination was its own reward. kind of like Ian Mckellan in Lord of the Ringsand finally Maximillian Schell for Julia whom I thought was better than Robards. I don't hink he really deserved a nomination. He looked alot like Hammett , but I can't say he was Oscar Worthy.
In 1976 for All the President's Men - he was very good and I don't begrudge him that Oscar win - Personally - I would have picked Ned Beatty for Network for his absolutely dynamic cameo, or Burgess Meredith for Rocky. That year had a tough roster of nominees and frankly any of the nominees would have been deserving, but Robards for Julia is a head scratcher.

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I can't really judge Jason Robards' Julia win since I haven't seen the movie but I do agree with those about his win for All the President's Men....that was truly undeserved. Nothing memorable whatsoever in that role.

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"I do agree with those about his win for All the President's Men....that was truly undeserved. Nothing memorable whatsoever in that role."

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It made absolutely no sense that he won for this. He had what, maybe 5 minutes of screen time? I just saw this a week ago, and before I was really excited to see Robard's and Redgrave's great performances, but they were barely in the movie. Why the hell did they win?

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This was a pretty weak category that year, and I must say that despite of this, I STILL feel that Maximillian Schell gave a better performance in the same film....AND it was much shorter than Robards'! I think I'd given the Oscar to him or even Peter Firth in "Equus" or Sir Alec Guiness in "Star Wars".

Vanessa Redgrave's win was almost as questionable as Robards' but she had some winning moments in her brief performance.

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I loved it that Jason got it for Julia. I think it's one of the most amazing Oscar wins of all time. Especially since the voters are usually loathe to annoint the same person two years in a row.

But who else--Max Schell was great but he had 2 scenes in the same movie.

Peter Firth was up for Equus but that movie was a bomb and voters resented the fact that he had played the same part on the stage.

Alec Guiness in Star Wars--a child's fantasy flick?

And Baryshnikov--who could barely get the words out in English for the Turning Point.

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Agreed, and I feel the same way about Redgrave's winning: I liked her acceptance speech better. Incredibly, Maximilian Schell was nominated for best supporting actor and was named Best Supporting Actor by the NY Film Critics Circle. Though it's vapid, Julia was nominated for 10 Academy Awards.

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Robards' performance in Julia is great acting, even though the role is slight and immaterial to the "plot". Examples: The way Hammett (Robards) fights with Helmann, and pushes her to be a better writer, without smothering her. He is paternalistic and charming. And you also get a sense of him being a genius which is what Hammett was after all. He also had lots of weird little idiosyncracies. He managed to pack a lot into a very small role.

If anyone shouldn't have won an Oscar, it's Vanessa Redgrave. All she did in this movie was get a prosthetic leg and tell Jane Fonda to stop crying in a really patronising pompous way.

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rtcnz stated,

Robards' performance in Julia is great acting, even though the role is slight and immaterial to the "plot". Examples: The way Hammett (Robards) fights with Helmann, and pushes her to be a better writer, without smothering her. He is paternalistic and charming. And you also get a sense of him being a genius which is what Hammett was after all. He also had lots of weird little idiosyncracies. He managed to pack a lot into a very small role.


I liked the scenes where he told her she could do better & tried to motivate her to be her best & of course her scenes @ the typewriter where she's got a serious bad case of writer's block. 

If anyone shouldn't have won an Oscar, it's Vanessa Redgrave. All she did in this movie was get a prosthetic leg and tell Jane Fonda to stop crying in a really patronising pompous way.


I disagree w/you about VR. I thought she was believable; esp. @ the bar in Berlin. LOL @ "All she did in this movie was get a prosthetic leg and tell Jane Fonda to stop crying in a really patronising pompous way."

I didn't find her to be "pompous" while telling Lillian NOT to cry. She didn't want Lilly to feel bad. Plus, they didn't have a lot of time to discuss anything, so she had to get straight to the point. I thought it was a very realistic & great scene! 



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I thought his performance in All the President's Men was much better and really deserving of the Oscar, he was still quite good in Julia but I think the competition was pretty weak that year (Peter Firth, Maximillian Schell, Alec Guiness).... that is what usually happens when someone wins back-to-back Oscars: weak competition in the second year. Ironically even though Jane Fonda has two others Oscars, I consider her performance in Julia to be her best work ever - she inhabits that character unlike in most of her other roles, where you can always "catch" her acting in one scene or another, she is virtually flawless here. In a weird sort of way, I think Redgrave and Robards both won, almost as a way of honoring her again.

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I agree. I'm stymied by Robard's win. To win two consecutive Oscars, that second performance better raise the dead. I kept on waiting for some stellar scene by Robards, but I never even came across one that registered anything memorable. He delivered a few decent lines...but that's a testament to the WRITER!

Now I can understand Redgrave's win more. Though she just had a few minutes on screen, she was luminent. I don't think that alone warrants the Oscar - she was more deserving than Robards.

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Robards deserved a win for Melvin & Howard. In 1977 the Supporting Actress Oscar should've gone to Tuesday Weld.

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by badnomad » Thu Feb 11 2010 11:10:39 Flag ▼ | Reply |
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I agree. I'm stymied by Robard's win. To win two consecutive Oscars, that second performance better raise the dead. I kept on waiting for some stellar scene by Robards, but I never even came across one that registered anything memorable. He delivered a few decent lines...but that's a testament to the WRITER!

Now I can understand Redgrave's win more. Though she just had a few minutes on screen, she was luminent. I don't think that alone warrants the Oscar - she was more deserving than Robards.


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I thought Vanessa Redgrave did a great job & Robards did too in his few short scenes, but certainly NOT Oscar Award-winning on Robards part.

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