The Hat!! - Julia (1978) Discussion

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[–] mtmv 15 years ago

"As movie studios do not have their own on-site wardrobe departments any more, many costume designers commission pieces (or borrow pieces) from Western Costume Co. in the San Fernando Valley, which has expert seamstresses and a huge stock. The hat may well have been built and/or ended up there."

The costumes in this movie - including the hat - were designed by Anthea Sylbert. She would probably be the only one who would know where it went.

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[–] mtmv 15 years ago

"Do we know that Sylbert actually had this hat built?"

Inasmuch as the hat plays a pivotal role in the plot I think it's unlikely they would have searched for an appropriate model - especially since hats were out of fashion in the seventies. Much easier to make exactly what they needed, and many costume designers can build hats - they don't need to "have" them built. Anthea Sylbert was known for her meticulous designs made from scratch without having to rely on costume warehouses.

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[–] cookiela2001 14 years ago

It's odd that someone has removed my comments about the costumes in this film...but one thing I pointed out is that there was a parade of the clothes on the Academy Awards broadcast in 1978. So if someone really wanted to find it, they could start there, and trace where it went afterwards.

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[–] Simplythebest11962 9 years ago

by mtmv » Wed Apr 8 2009 13:53:14 Flag ▼ | Reply |
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Post Edited: Wed Apr 8 2009 13:58:09
"Do we know that Sylbert actually had this hat built?"

LOL

"It's a good thing!"--Martha Stewart
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[–] cookiela2001 7 years ago

many costume designers can build hats - they don't need to "have" them built.

It's unlikely that Anthea Sylbert, a famous designer, would built the hat with her own hands...just as it's unlikely she would have sewn the costumes herself.

This was a big budget film; there's no need for the designer to be sitting up all night with a hot glue gun, as she would have in college.

That's what professional milliners are for.
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[–] Rand-o 15 years ago

I love the hat, too!

And the line:
"You would put on the hat?"

I love that whole sequence: the train trip from Paris via Berlin to Moscow. Actually, I love the whole movie. It's one of my top ten favorites of all time.

We're all busy little bees, aren't we, honey?

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[–] Masey3 15 years ago

I love that whole sequence: the train trip from Paris via Berlin to Moscow

Agree, the hat's great!
& that sequence was my favorite part of the movie Love the dialogue, mystery & tensity, & how smoothly the whole 'undercover operation' was carried out. Really good!

"Hey, how come Andrew gets to get up? If he gets up...we'll all get up...IT'LL BE ANARCHY!!"

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[–] carolgholden 10 years ago

Really? Lillian is so frustratingly dense...I cringed every times people had to remind her of these incredibly simple things she had to do. Wear the hat, leave the chocolates. (leave the gun, take the cannoli) ugh. She drove me nuts!

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[–] carolgholden 10 years ago

I kept wondering why the "helpers" didn't just do the caper themselves?

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[–] Simplythebest11962 9 years ago

by carolgholden » Wed Jul 30 2014 17:28:47 Flag ▼ | Reply |
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I kept wondering why the "helpers" didn't just do the caper themselves?

LOL exactly! 

"It's a good thing!"--Martha Stewart
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[–] Simplythebest11962 9 years ago

by carolgholden » Wed Jul 30 2014 17:27:39 Flag ▼ | Reply |
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Really? Lillian is so frustratingly dense...I cringed every times people had to remind her of these incredibly simple things she had to do. Wear the hat, leave the chocolates.

That's hilarious! You're funny! 

She drove me nuts!

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"It's a good thing!"--Martha Stewart
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[–] cookiela2001 7 years ago

Lillian is so frustratingly dense...I cringed every times people had to remind her of these incredibly simple things she had to do. Wear the hat, leave the chocolates. (leave the gun, take the cannoli) ugh. She drove me nuts!

We should make a thread of all the things dumdum Lillian has to be reminded of.

There's also Julia telling her twice "take out your comb" in the cafe, and "Go NOW!"
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[–] grumpy_otter 14 years ago

I saw this movie once when I was 11, because my mom wanted to see it, and thought it was really boring (just because I didn't understand it).

But I remembered that hat my whole life! So the first time i come to this board, what's the first post i see--THE HAT!!!

lol

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[–] onepotato2 14 years ago

We need you to sneak contraband into Germany ...wearing a hat the size of a beach ball on your head. No one will suspect.

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[–] carolgholden 10 years ago

Lol! So true!

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[–] feodoric 11 years ago

There is even something Hitchcockian about that whole dialogue about the hat or little details such as the meals aboard, or when the creepy young German woman grabs the chocolate box and starts eating some in front of a totally bewildered Fonda who is starting to become completely clueless about what the hell is going on... Well, any mysterious, surrealistic or bizarre situations aboard a train are basically Hitchcokian in atmosphere. The trend was definitely launched with movies such as "The 39 Steps" and "The Lady Vanishes", which the second half of "Julia" reminds us about in so many ways...

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[–] janet-conant 11 years ago

Very good observations, feodoric.

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[–] janet-conant 11 years ago

So grumpy otter do you still think it's boring? I love Julia. When I was 11 in 1966 I was forced to watch A Man For All Seasons and all I could think of was wanting something to drink I was so thirsty. Later when I got older I saw Man For All Seasons and I thought it was positively wonderful especially Paul Scofield. I can see why a normal kid at 11 would have found Julia boring.

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[–] janet-conant 10 years ago

Speaking of the train....did you see how the older women in the compartment is bothered by Lillian smoking but later she is seen smoking herself as they reach the border.

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[–] Simplythebest11962 9 years ago

by janet-conant » Thu Oct 23 2014 10:53:13 Flag ▼ | Reply |
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Speaking of the train....did you see how the older women in the compartment is bothered by Lillian smoking but later she is seen smoking herself as they reach the border.

LOL That's hilarious. 

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[–] cookiela2001 9 years ago

Speaking of the train....did you see how the older women in the compartment is bothered by Lillian smoking but later she is seen smoking herself as they reach the border.

Oh, those weasely types of people are still around, even today.

They're who we went over there to fight!

Damn two-faced smokers.....

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[–] murph24 7 years ago

...did you see how the older women in the compartment is bothered by Lillian smoking but later she is seen smoking herself as they reach the border.

I've seen "Julia" a few times, and it's something that's always baffled me. The woman in question coughs & is clearly bothered by Hellman smoking in the compartment, then accompanies Hellman to the dining car where she discusses her lung & breathing problems. What comes across is pretty clear: The woman has some type of respiratory ailment and is not comfortable with people smoking around her.

Then the following day, in TWO successive scenes that take place at the border crossing, she's nonchalantly smoking cigarettes herself!

I wonder if the film's DVD release has a commentary track that addresses this head-scratching turnaround...

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