One post says the reason why Kermit doesn't appear on the DVD is because Disney bought the rights and wouldn't allow Kermit to appear on the DVD rerelease of Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas. Another post says that the reason that Kermit doesn't appear on the DVD is because he wasn't in the original 1977 version of the movie. Which is it?
shareIts from rights issues.
shareThank you for replying! I've been wondering. Not that it matters to Disney, but now that I know that it's due to rights issues, I'm definitely going to write them a strongly worded letter and I'm going to have all my family and friends boycott their products and their theme parks until they let Kermit come back to Emmet!
shareYou'll be wasting your time. Do know how many people tried to get them to bring back "Mr. Toads Wild Ride" at Disney World? It almost came to picket lines. Disney lives in a world of it's own.
shareUgh! This is so sad! What could possibly be their motivation for witholding Kermit's likeness from a beloved christmas special like Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas?! It's not like Disney will go bankrupt if they allow Kermit to appear in ONE non-disney film!
shareHe's in my copy of the DVD.
You just have to be resigned-
You're crashing by design
Where did you get your DVD from?
shareIt was just a retail store - Target or Best Buy probably, I really don't remember. maybe Suncoast.
You just have to be resigned-
You're crashing by design
Narf. Looks like I'm going to have to break down and get the $11 copy at Wal-mart. I hope this one has Kermit in it!
shareThe new ones being sold do not have Kermit in it. But the bloopers, alternate/deleted scenes and behind the scenes documentery are more than worth the $10 or so it is selling for.
When you walk a mile in someone else's shoes is it technically stealing?
I think what I'll do is buy the one they have out on dvd now for the deleted scenes (I believe one of the deleted scenes has Ma otter telling Mrs. Fox to fall off the dock!) and I'll record the Kermit version from the VHS casette to dvd.
sharethe deleted scenes are all in the orignal HBO version and their is still one difference in the hbo version that has not been in the others or on the new dvd as an extra. Read the alternate versions for the film (on left) for this info as i do not feel like re-typing it
shareYou know, I actually prefer the version WITHOUT Kermit. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Kermit the Frog but he kind of doesn't really belong in Emmitt Otter's world if you ask me.
shareWhen Columbia/Tri-Star released this on DVD, it was an edited version from it's original HBO airing. At the time, Disney did not own the Muppets, and Kermit was indeed included. This was in 1999, I believe.
Fast forward to 2005. Henson strikes a deal with Hit Entertainment, and "Emmet Otter" makes it to a special-edition DVD. By this time, however, Disney now owns the Muppets and refuses to release Kermit to a "side show" like Hit Entertainment. They are forced to release the DVD without Kermit.
I have both versions on DVD...the C/TS version AND the HE version. What I intend to do is make a "director's cut" of sorts, editing together the Kermit footage, the deleted/alternate scenes (with extended dialogue), and the extended versions of the songs, then burn my own DVD copy of it.
**side note** I think part of the reason for Disney's refusal to Hit Entertainment may have to do with jealousy on some extent. HE distributes "Barney," "The Wiggles," and "Thomas The Tank Engine."
Thanks Kyle! Maybe I'll get lucky and one of the stores in town will have the C/TS version.
*Sighs* I can't believe that I have to go through all this grief to find a dvd simply because Disney has issues. Seriously, I don't want to hear a single word in their defense about how "business is business" that's a cop out, not an excuse. There is no possible way that a multi-billion dollar company like Disney is going to go flat-busted because they allow one of their characters to appear in a movie put out by one of their competitors. And I don't want to hear the argument, "If they do it for one character/competitor, they have to do it for them all," because that's a bogus argument if I ever heard one. That certainly does not have to be the case. If they chose to allow one of their characters to appear in one film by a competitor, they don't have to allow any other characters or competitors like treatment if they don't want to. Furthermore, they don't even have to allow the same character that they allowed in one film by a competitor to be in any subsequent films by that competitor!This seems less to me about saving their tails and more about keeping an "inferior" down.
Mine has Kermit in it -- you mean he was taken out on other versions? That just breaks my heart. This is one of my favorite Christmas classics and now beloved by my two-year-old. It wouldn't be the same without "Kermie."
I am so glad that you all have mentioned the line about Gretchen Fox falling off the dock -- I was wondering what happened to that line, along with the line about passing the hat to the fish and only getting a wet hat! I'm going to go check out the deleted scenes. Thanks for the advice.
Yeah, Kermit was taken out of the most recent DVD version. Apparently, Disney bought the rights to Kermit and felt that the production company that would put out the latest copies of Emmet was a "Sideshow" and didn't want to release Kermit's likeness to them for the film. Narf.
Oh well. I have the vhs copy of Emmet with Kermit in the film. It's good enough for me. It still reminds me of all the years my brother and I sat glued to the tv, watching Emmet and of how my Dad's eyes used to light up as he would relate to my brother and I the story of the Gift of the Magi. I don't think I ever told Dad what that story meant to me. I'll have to remember to tell him at Christmas this year.
Which part of the movie had Kermit in it? I saw it a hundred times when I was a kind, but I just got the DVD and he is gone.
I knew he was in it, but now I can't remember the part.
He was in the very beginning of the film as a sort of narrator and I think he voiced over towards the end of the movie.
That's right, Kermit bookends the movie.
Damn Disney Corporation! Damn them to Hell!
Ha ha ha ha! You just said "nuclear". It's "nukular", dummy, the "s" is silent!
I think Kermit introduced the show, when the Riverbottom Boys attacked adn threw him into a basket. Then he appeared at the end, sitting in the diner while they played music.
shareI like Kermit's encounter with The Nightmare in the opening.
"See anything ya like?"
"The scarf, maybe..."
"You GOT it!"
(snags Kermit's scarf with a fishing pole)