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I'm a straight 19 y/o male


And damn did I freaking love this movie. Got me teary eyed at the end. This is one of the best romantic movies ever to be realized on the big screen.

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I watched it for the first time and really enjoyed it too.

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I saw this movie for the first time in high school, when I was 14 (I graduated in 2007 BTW) and it instantly became my favorite movie ever.

I'm also a straight cis male, so I totally know where you're coming from, a GUY liking a ROMANTIC COMEDY, haha.

https://youtu.be/NmnDARU1kbU The link is to my recent review of ANNIE HALL. I showed it to a friend who'd never seen it and she really liked it.

Give it a watch if you have the time, see what a newbie and a massive fan thought of it all these years later.

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OMG you're a cis? that's incredible, only 99.97% of the world are! Wow, i'm in shock.

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I'm a straight 28-year-old male and I also enjoyed this movie. I'd watch it again in a heartbeat.

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screwed-up about your generation that straight males are not supposed to like COMEDIES!?!??!?!?!!?

(btw, that was rhetorical, I do know the answer)

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Wow...this is such a strange thread to this 40-something STRAIGHT MALE.

How times have changed. We've done such a huge disservice to our younger generations. It's become a society pathologically obsessed with identity politics. But to what end? It seems presumed these days that one can't have an opinion on a given subject unless one is a member of a certain group? Bizarre.

People my age seem to often shy away from saying "when I was your age", thinking it makes them sound "old," which is another idiotic affliction brought to us over the past 40 years (is it because we value youth just a tad bit too much?).

While there was no social media when I was young, no one felt obligated to identify their gender identity or sexuality when conveying a mere opinion. Why? It's entirely, completely irrelevant. We've sexualized so much of culture, ironically, in a well-intended effort to be sensitive and/or inclusive that we've completely created the exact opposite effect. We've segregated ourselves on too many fronts to even count. In fact, it's hard for men these days to be close friends without some sexual suggestion being made. It's equally as difficult to raise an argument without someone eventually playing the "x card" (race, gender, class, etc.), as if this is some kind of valid way to prove right or wrong. So now we've gotten to the point that we just offer it up right from the start ("I'm a white gay man and I think...."). I find this stuff scary, quite frankly.

When this film came out, it would have been bizarre for anyone to relate sexuality or gender with whether or not one liked it. Woody Allen has always had a large male fanbase and a film such as this speaks directly to the male condition in relation to the opposite sex (yes, there are a great many differences between us, folks). That's why it resonated so strongly then and still does today, as evidenced from these posts.

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It's become a society pathologically obsessed with identity politics.


It has been that way for a while, but you can thank Obama for the pathological extremism that now exists. Victim-politics & identity-politics are Obama's life-story. He has nothing else. He sees nothing else. He never will.

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Great! So now there's a label for a normal person who's not gay, trans etc. Implying that normal people are in the minority.

This is just more of the PC mindset at it's worst and most intolerant.

In George Orwell's book "1984", his prediction of the socialist state creating false labels and an artificial lexicon for anything it doesn't approve of("thoughtcrime", "unperson" etc) what he called "Newspeak" or "Doublespeak", is coming true. I doubt most people on the extreme left have even heard of, much less read Orwell's classic. It should be required reading on every college campus, the hotbeds of most Politically Correct thinking.



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What kind?
...The Forever Kind.

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I doubt most people on the extreme left have even heard of, much less read Orwell's classic.


Right, what with Orwell being a hero to the left and a famous leftist himself.






These are the only words I have, I'm stuck with them, stuck in them

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as they hate most normal people. Orwell was a hetero white male & more than a bit of a homophobe. He was also not afraid to tell extremists / anarchists / etc to get lost. Today's left is full of anarchists who care mainly about Identity Politics & Self-Victimization Politics. Those would both be foreign to Orwell. Today's "left" would call Orwell names & attack him in a variety of ways.

Don't pretend today's "left" is anything like the left of 40 yrs ago or the "left" of Orwell's time.


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You're right about that. You're also right that one of their strategies (probably from before the term "PC" was popular) is to pretend that normal people are in the minority. In their minds, if we agree that the world is one big freak-show, then nobody can blame them for being freaks.

It is their constant tactic to overstate their #s in every way, shape & form. That is why they were so "stunned" that Hellary got her butt kicked by normal people. The fumbduck PCers believed their own propaganda. Idiots.

Whenever you hear a PCer overstate their #s in any way, shape & form, speak out. Fight it. Do not let their propaganda go uncontested.

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What does sexual orientation have to do with how you feel about this movie?

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Thank you. The repressive, dehumanizing totalitarian state in Orwell's 1984 was Socialist. It was called the "EngSoc" (English Socialist) party.

You're right. The left today is obsessed with propaganda and pushing their agenda and incredibly out of touch with reality.


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...The Forever Kind.

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IngSoc actually. And the Nazi party was called the national socialist party. The name in Orwell's novel is a comment on the duplicity of totalitarian regimes' attempts to assert their own reality over actual reality by rewriting history and subverting the meaning of language itself. I would have thought that someone bemoaning other people's supposed ignorance of Orwell would have known this. Orwell was opposed to totalitarianism, but he was a leftist and a socialist and no amount of doublethink can rewrite that particular piece of history.








These are the only words I have, I'm stuck with them, stuck in them

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"The name in Orwell's novel is a comment on the duplicity of totalitarian regimes' attempts to assert their own reality over actual reality by rewriting history and subverting the meaning of language itself."


Really? You've just described PERFECTLY, word for word what liberals are attempting to do to society now.

Orwell was a leftist? You're probably right. But I think it's safe to say he hated what the left was becoming. He wrote 1984 at the height of Stalin's power, and Stalin was every bit as much a monster as Hitler (but the liberals in Hollywood will never release a movie showing the truth about Stalin). The Nazis and the Fascists were defeated 71 years ago. The surviving totalitarian states today are left wing.

It really doesn't make any difference what values the state claims to uphold. They're all lies. The real goal is dominance, power and the subjugation and enslavement, both body and mind, of the population.

I'm glad we agree on something.


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Says the person attempting to assert that "liberal" is a word that carries negative connotations.


liberal/ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/

adjective
1.willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
2.(of education) concerned with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training.
3.(especially of an interpretation of a law) broadly construed or understood; not strictly literal.
4.given, used, or occurring in generous amounts.

To which of these do you most object?

The world's most prominent democracy has just elected a man who ran on a campaign that included the prospect of banning all Muslims from entering his country and you think the fascists were defeated 71 years ago? If you seriously believe that fascism ended with the second world war I would encourage you to brush up on modern history and current affairs.

As for Orwell; I'm "probably" right? I don't think Orwell's political allegiance is in any way unclear. Let's hear from the man himself, who wrote an essay titled "Why I Write" that all his work since returning from fighting alongside the left in the Spanish civil war was "written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism." Socialism is a political ideology. Opposition to discrimination is just basic decency.

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immature, narcissistic, narrow-minded, hypocritical, intolerant religious zealots. Their religion is PCretinism. PCretinism is the exact opposite of "liberal".

I often try to educate people not to fall into the fraudulent trap of calling PCretins "liberals", but people of all stripes learn slowly. Old habits are hard to break.

But hiding behind the WORD "liberal" doesn't make it so, as you probably know well when you look in the mirror.


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"The liberals in Hollywood will never release a movie showing truth about Stalin".

Why wouldn't they do that - considering that Stalin's regime was the polar opposite of liberal?



"facts are stupid things" Ronald Reagan

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Let's see, 90% of the college campuses in the US today. UC Berkeley stands out like a sore thumb as being the polar opposite of liberal.

What else? Well, NYT, WaPo, etc etc etc.

We can do this all day.

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As they hate most normal people. You can blah blah blah all you want, but if you anything about him, you know that he was a hetero white male & more than a bit of a homophobe. He was also not afraid to tell extremists / anarchists / etc to get lost. Today's left is full of anarchists who care mainly about Identity Politics & Self-Victimization Politics. Those would both be foreign to Orwell.

Today's "left" would call Orwell names & attack him in a variety of ways.

Don't pretend today's "left" is anything like the left of 40 yrs ago or the "left" of Orwell's time.

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Is it me or is there an echo in here?




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Clowns to the left of you, no one to the right?

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Thank you! That's what I've been trying to say. 1984 was written at the height of Stalin's power, and I'm quite sure it's an attack on him and at what the left was capable of becoming (like now).

The left in Western Europe, England and the U.S at the time, even if you disagreed with it, was about much more substantial issues, like the labor movement, than now. The Political Correctness of today didn't exist.


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...The Forever Kind.

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I love the last scene where they were together. It looked as if it were taken from the restaurant O'Neal's Baloon. I worked across the street, at One Lincoln Plaza.

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