Wow, such irony, the US is being lectured on morality by a German. Of course, Germans are stellar people except for a Nazi or two. Time to take a good look in the mirror, mein deutche freund! Besides, the largest immigrant group in America came from Germany!
sharei dont see the irony. maybe, because i don't think of the americans as "the americans" nor of the germans as "the" germans.
i suppose wenders feels the same way, given that he spent about 3 decades living and filming both in germany and the US.
I guess so. I was responding to some of the posters here who were making a case that he was exposing the Americans, as if we were ripping off the German culture. As if the Germans weren't the experts at literally ripping off other people's cultures as in looting and war booty. By the way did you see the version of this called Ripley: End Game?
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"Ripley: End Game" What is that. I cant find a film titled that ?
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Sorry, meant Ripley's Game, with John Malkovich
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265651/
Both movies are based on the same book.
no, haven't seen the ripley one.
i got your point about the "exposing americans" issue, which bugged me as well when i read it, but i tend to think that it doesn't further your point to fight generalizations by generalizing yourself.
Wow, such irony, the US is being lectured on morality by a German.
And why not. The German culture has given us Goethe, Schopenhaur, Marx, Einstein and Brecht all of them have a great deal to say about morality.
Besides, the largest immigrant group in America came from Germany!
And one of the descendants of those immigrants was Nicholas Ray(the man with the eyepatch in this film). His full name is Raymond Nicholas Kienzle. And as a boy he saw his family bearing hate crimes because they were Germans, thanks to anti-German sentiment on account of WW1(cf. East of Eden, filmed by Ray's close friend Elia Kazan). So maybe Americans can learn something from Germany.
And the American cinema has many classics like The Big Heat, Criss Cross, Imitation of Life, Ace in the Hole, Day of the Outlaw, Detour to limit a very few. What to they have in common. They are all made by native Germans who fled their land because the rise of Nazism destroyed their native cinema. A good quarter of America's most influential films were made by this group of exiles and refugees.
"Ça va by me, madame...Ça va by me!" - The Red Shoes
I'm hardly a some ignoramus; the Sciences, Arts, Music, Engineering, Cinema, the University concept, Philosophy has all been developed and greatly expanded by Germans. But no one went around ripping German culture off the same way the Germans looted, with brutality, the cultural and artistic legacy of the countries she occupied in both world wars. That looting and enslaving went far beyond art treasures.
Being Jewish, I would have to learn nano-technology to build a violin small enough to play a tune for victims of anti-German bigotry. Sorry, most(99.99%) of the time Germans were the victimizers not the victims. As far as Germans not knowing about the Holocaust: they might have lacked the gory details but they knew what was going to happen and most approved of it as well as believed the lies about Jews stabbing and polluting the German race. Hitler didn't invent anti-Semitism, he just blew on some hot coals and got the flames going again. Even Pastors Neimoller and Gruber agreed the Jews were a destructive evil race, they just disapproved of the inevitable "solution".
Whatever your issues with Germans are, this film isn't some apologia about German war crimes. This is a film set in West Germany, the country created after the war and mostly concerns criminals on the fringes of society.
So take your grudge elsewhere.
"Ça va by me, madame...Ça va by me!" - The Red Shoes
Uh, the USA were lectured first by the American novelist Patricia Highsmith, who wrote novel the movie is based on. But then again Patricia Highsmith, who was never very popular in the USA, had very little of American in herself, since she preferred to live most of her life in Europe.
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