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Who do you think was the best Ripley?


Patricia Highsmith's character of Tom Ripley has now been played by five VERY, VERY different actors:

By Alain Delon in "Purple Noon", by Dennis Hopper in "The American Friend", by Matt Damon in "The Talented Mr. Ripley", by John Malkovich in "Ripley's Game" and now by Barry Pepper in "Ripley Under Ground".

I've just finished reading my way through Highsmith's "Ripliad", but I've only had the opportunity to see two of the films, "The Talented Mr. Ripley" and "Ripley's Game"...

From watching those, I think that Malkovich was much more like the character as Highsmith wrote him in the books than Damon was.

"The Talented Mr. Ripley" script changed the character too much. In that film Ripley was this nervous, angsty, homosexual who commits a few impulsive crimes of passion and is forever wracked with guilt over his actions.

Malkovich was much more evil in "Ripley's Game"... a suave, cultured, confident heterosexual sociopath who thinks his crimes through meticulously and sees the people around him as mere pawns to be manipulated for his own sick amusement.

It's funny, but I find the character of Ripley more interesting and charismatic, the more evil he is. When Anthony Minghella tried to make him more sympathetic in "The Talented Mr. Ripley" - I liked him a lot LESS.

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Actually, normally I find Malkovich a bit grating as an actor. As you said, he has a very cold screen presence and also a tendency to utter his lines in a very quiet tone of voice. But these performance tics, which I found irritating in films like "Mary Reilly", were appropriate for Ripley. I liked the calmness as he goes about doing all these nefarious deeds, in contrast to the character of Jonathan, who's like totally flipping out.

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Yes--Malkovich has a rather sociopathic delivery--as playing Mitch Leary, in 'In the Line of Fire'. I find it amusing. He tickles me. I can see where he'd be a good match with Ripley.

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Malkovich was stunning!

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Alain Delon was quite good looking and Patricia Highsmith preferred him as her Ripley, but the film (Plein Soleil) wimped out by having him caught.

Dennis Hopper captured something of Ripley's loneliness and sense of impetuousity, but wearing a cowboy hat? Not really but Bruno Ganz was outstanding as Jonathan. He understood his dilema and fatalistically could not escape it (The American Friend).

Matt Damon was great at portraying the weak, scared young Ripley; still finding his feet in the world. But Dickie always had to go and I wasn't sold on the homoerotic subtext. Tom wanted his life and money, not his body. The trapped guilt was nicely played though.

Malkovich was *beep* awesome, all the cold cruelty underneath waiting to come out, but with plenty of charm. Remember people like Tom until they have something he wants, or they get in his way or insult or annoy him (Ripley's Game)

Pepper looks kinda weak in films, but I aint seen this one.

Underachieving since 1969

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Malkovich captured Ripley best, but the rest of the casting in the American Freind was much, much better than Ripleys game (which is the same story).

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I hate Malkovich!!:@ He may be a good actor (but not great), but his presence is SO unbearable! I didnt think he was right for the part of Ripley at all. I think Delon was the best Tom Ripley. Hopper was interesting and Damon was the worst of them.

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My first cinematic exposure to Ripley was Wim Wenders' masterful 1977 extrapolation of the "Ripley's Game" novel entitled "The American Friend." He created a visually stunning ans psychologically multi-layered meditation on Art, friendship, and personal ethics. I find it the most extraordinary and satisfying of the four Ripley films I've seen. Dennis Hopper portrays Ripley as a psychological loose cannon, emotionally stunted and befuddled by personal crisis. But where Highsmith detailed the inner schematic of her protagonist's pathology, Hopper doesn't let us inside his head. His performance is all neurotic surface, and we're left to imagine what dark possibilities lie within. We're never sure what he is capable of or what he might do next, and this quirky menace is all the more terrifying when he purposely insinuates himself into the life of a gentle, benign family man beautifully portrayed by Bruno Ganz. While Hopper might not be central casting's choice as Tom, he is famous for a sort of edgy uncertainty which is clearly present in the literary Ripley's personality, and he's never less than fascinating in the role.

Malkovich certainly portrays a more suave and sinister soul in "Ripley's Game." No one conveys a sense of icy malevolence better, and for that reason alone, he should indeed be the perfect Tom Ripley. But somehow, for me, he doesn't quite bring it off. Behind all the intricate machinations of the psycopathic mind, there should be, at its very core, a deficiency -- a blank and utter void where moral scruples would normally reside. Malkovich seems so thoroughly and relentlessly intelligent that I can't imagine any speck of him being beyond calculation. We get sang-froid instead of soulless compulsion. Mighella draws a very accurate home environment for Ripley, I think, but strangely inflates the affluence of Jonathan, a down-on-his-luck picture framer, and the lush Italian piedmont seems too soft a setting for this harsh a story. Far more effective are the severe and tarnished urban surfaces of Wenders' Hamburg.

Although it's been many years since I've seen "Purple Noon," I remember Alain Delon as a pretty (almost TOO Pretty) convincing Ripley, but I would prefer someone a bit less dashing and more nondescript. Delon has decent acting chops, and he did particularly well in the culminating police chase which this version emphasized. However, he gets caught in the end, which is so contrary to the mythos of Highsmith's writing.

"The Talented Mr. Ripley" proved a very awkward bundle for me. Great attention was paid to the mis-en-scene -- full-blown Hollywood scene design and meticulous set decoration -- and, excepting the leading role, casting was very effective. Matt Damon is just too much of a pup actor to fill out this role. The character he created was competent enough, but it just wasn't Tom Ripley -- even a young and callow Tom Ripley. If Jude Law weren't so good as Dickie Greenleaf, I might have liked seeing him take on our troubled anti-hero; he's got just the right mix of sophistocation and steely stare. Gwynneth Paltrow did a smart and pert little turn as well. And then, Philip Seymour Hoffmann effectively stole the whole film. Among this crew, I just kept forgetting to look at Damon.

"Der Amerikanische Freund" -- Hopper -- 10

"Ripley's Game" -- Malkovich -- 8

"Purple Noon" -- Delon -- 7

"The Talented Mr. Ripley" -- Damon -- 5

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It seems like a lot of the postings on this site come from people who have not read all of the books in this series. Matt Damon was very good in the Talented Mr. Ripley. The homosexual subtent is throughout that first book. I don't understand how anyone could have missed that. Damon just didn't portray the suave character that emerged in later books. If Matt Damon would have portrayed Tom again, he'd probable be studying the old classic characteristics of the F. Scott Fitzgerald crowd.

The Malkovich portrayal was, well, too Malkovich. I never bought him as Ripley.

Dennis Hopper; however, was great! He just didn't have that presence that Tom Ripley has in the books: A character that is ever evolving and becoming more calculating as he grows older.

Kudos to anyone that takes on this complicated character. Damon was great as the young Tom. The question is who could deliver the older more knowledgeable Ripley?

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Now that I've seen all of the first four Ripley movies and I've reread a couple of the novels, my opinion has changed somewhat.

In answer to your question, Rupertsboy... before I had even read the novels, I had read an interview with Patricia Highsmith in which she denied that there was a homosexual subtext to the Ripley novels and said that Ripley was heterosexual.

At the time, I was largely ignorant of Highsmith's background and the culture she grew up in... so I was inclined to take her on her word, and this clouded my reading of the books somewhat... it's why I wasn't really thinking of the homosexual subtext the first time I read the books. I see it now, and am more sceptical of Highsmith's comments about her own work in general.

Also, the second time I read the books I became more aware of the changes (some subtle and some huge) that occur to Ripley's character over the course of the books... and taking this into account, it makes sense that actors and filmmakers have interpreted the character in such radically different ways.

Ripley is a needy and insecure neurotic in the first book - and Matt Damon conveys this very well. The problem with Matt Damon's Ripley is not his lack of self-confidence, or even that writer/director Anthony Minghella has taken the homo-erotic subtext and made it explicit.... no, the problem is that "The Talented Mr. Ripley" makes Ripley less culpable... the first killing is committed by accident and in self defence, the subsequent ones in order to cover up the first.

However, this more sensitive Ripley is quite a compelling creation in it's own right... as is Dennis Hopper's befuddled, drugged-out cowboy portrayal. Hopper's Ripley is a lost and bewildered outsider, a walking anachronism... and it's not hard to imagine this washed out wanderer as the grown up version of Damon's Ripley.

John Malkovich does seem like such a pulpish, comic-book villain in comparison... but I find what his performance lacks in depth he makes up for with screen presence.

Alain Delon, despite being very good looking and very French, strikes me as the best Ripley so far... his performance is a nice, even mixture of geeky insecurity and cold, calculating malice... he tries to capture both sides of Ripley's character whereas the other actors lean heavily on one or the other.

It must be said, that all of the actors have brought something of their own personality to the role, and having seen Delon and Hopper in action, I'm more curious than ever to see what Barry Pepper does with the part in the upcoming "Ripley Under Ground".

So my verdict is:


BEST PORTRAYAL OF RIPLEY
Alain Delon in "Purple Noon"

MOST GOOD LOOKING AND GOOD SOUNDING RIPLEY FILM
"The Talented Mr. Ripley"
(cinematography, sets n' costumes are all awesome and the jazz coundtrack is finger clickin' good)

BEST WRITTEN RIPEY FILM
"Ripley's Game"
(sharp dialogue, full of quotable gems... and has the most focused narrative of them all... the others, especially "The American Friend" contain a lot more unneccessary scenes that don't further the plot or characters)



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without any doubt : matt damon

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All the actors mentioned were good.
But if I had to choose I'd go for Delon and Hopper.

She might have fooled me, but she didn't fool my mother.


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I think the best 'Ripley' is still out there. I've seen the Damon, Hopper, and Malkovich versions. They were all good, just not quite there. I've known a few sociopaths, and they have similar qualities; charming, needy, manipulative and amoral.
One of the books, I think it's the last one, has him in drag, concerned with his waifish wife, and playing the harpsichord. I'm picturing Johnny Depp, maybe Tom Cruise (can he do subtle?), Tom Hanks? There is a lot of humor, some slapstick in the book.

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Among the actors mentioned before(Delon, Hopper, Damon, Malkovich, Pepper), John Malkovich is the best actor by far. However, Matt Damon was the best Ripley in my opinion.

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