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This is all a work of fiction...Alex Haley was a plagiarist


This is all a work of fiction...Alex Haley was a plagiarist
THE CELEBRATED 'ROOTS' OF A LIE

http://nypost.com/2002/01/16/the-celebrated-roots-of-a-lie/
January 16, 2002 -- ON Friday, NBC will air a special commemorating the 25th anniversary of the landmark miniseries based on Alex Haley's book "Roots." Ironically, the original series aired on ABC - but officials at that network took a pass on broadcasting the tribute.

What's truly amazing, however, is that "Roots" is receiving a reverential tribute at all. For while the miniseries was a remarkable - and important - piece of television,
the book on which it was based has now been widely exposed as a historical
hoax.

Unfortunately, the general public is largely unaware of how Haley's monumental family autobiography, stretching back to 18th-century Africa, has been discredited.

Indeed, a 1997 BBC documentary expose of Haley's work has been banned by U.S. television networks - especially PBS, which would normally welcome such a program.

Coincidentally, the "Roots" anniversary comes amid the growing scandal over disclosures of historian Stephen Ambrose's multiple incidents of plagiarism. Because as Haley himself was forced to acknowledge, a large section of his book -
including the plot, main character and scores of whole passages - was
lifted from "The African," a 1967 novel by white author Hal Courlander.

But plagiarism is the least of the problems in "Roots." And they would likely have remained largely unknown, had journalist Philip Nobile not undertaken a remarkable study of Haley's private papers shortly before they were auctioned off.

The result was featured in a devastating 1993 cover piece in the Village Voice. It confirmed - from Haley's own notes - earlier claims that the alleged history of the book was a near-total invention.

"Virtually every genealogical claim in Haley's story was false," Nobile has written. None of Haley's early writing contains any reference to his mythic ancestor, "the African" named Kunta Kinte. Indeed, Haley's later notes give his family name
as "Kante," not "Kinte."

And a long-suppressed tape of the famous session in which Haley " found" Kunta Kinte through the recitation of an African "griot" proves that, as BBC producer James Kent noted, "the villagers [were] threatened by members of Haley's party.
These turn out to be senior government officials desperate to ensure that things go
smoothly."

Haley, added Kent, "specifically asks for a story that will fit
his predetermined American narrative."

Historical experts who checked Haley's genealogical research discovered that, as one put it, "Haley got everything wrong in his pre-Civil War lineage and none of his
plantation ancestors existed; 182 pages have no basis in fact."

Given this damning evidence, you'd think Haley's halo would long ago have vanished. But - given this week's TV tribute - he remains a literary icon. Publicly, at least.

The judge who presided over Haley's plagiarism case admitted that "I did not want to destroy him" and so allowed him to settle quietly - even though, he acknowledged, Haley had repeatedly perjured himself in court.

The Pulitzer Prize board has refused to reconsider Haley's prize, awarded in 1977 - in what former Columbia President William McGill, then a board member, has acknowledged was an example of "inverse racism" by a bunch of white liberals
"embarrassed by our makeup."

Yet the uniqueness of "Roots" is that it was presented as factual history, albeit with fictional embellishments. Haley himself stressed that the details came from his family's oral history and had been corroborated by outside documents.

But Professor Henry Louis Gates of Harvard, a Haley friend, concedes that it's time to "speak candidly," adding that "most of us feel it's highly unlikely that Alex actually found the village from whence his ancestors came

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There are two separate issues -- fiction and plagiarism. The plagiarism seems to me irrelevant to whether or not the TV series is enjoyable (it is). As for fiction vs. non-fiction, the show is introduced as being based on "the current bestselling novel" -- so, there is no attempt (as far as I can see) to pretend that the TV show is totally fact, but rather that it is fact-based (like hundreds of other works of fiction that are, on some level, "based on a true story," but which still contain many made-up situations).

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The plagiarism seems to me irrelevant to whether or not the TV series is enjoyable (it is)


So fact that the author was dishonest, stole another person's work and profited from it, and who was told bluntly by the judge that unless he settled on favorable terms with the man he plagiarized from (Harold Courlander), he would have faced a criminal charge of perjury for lying under oath, is irrelevant?

Apply Alex Haley's conduct to *any* other context and you have something that would turn the matter of the series enjoyability into irrelevance. The movie "Cobb" is another case in point where a decade after it was made, we now know the author of the book that provided the basis for that view of Ty Cobb was a liar who faked things. I wouldn't give "Cobb" the time of day after learning that and after learning what I did about Alex Haley and his devious conduct that was swept under the rug because the PC elite had a vested interest in protecting him and the cash cow that "Roots" became, I refused to ever let "Roots" be used in my classroom for teaching history again. The story of what black Americans went through in the injustice of slavery and the struggle to be free is compelling enough that it doesn't need the dishonesty of a hack writer to bring it into focus. And the story is compelling enough that it doesn't need to keep propping up a lie on the grounds that it would somehow be shattering to the black community to let the truth come forth and let Haley be exposed as the liar and cheat he was (we seem to think its a greater outrage if a baseball player uses steroids!). If anything, that kind of attitude is patronizing and demeaning to the black community.

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Spin doctors are good at making the inconclusive appear conclusive. They are smoke and mirror experts after all.
Nosferatu was also plagiarized, but I highly doubt the OP gripes about it. The movie still followed the core of the story and so does this movie.

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This is all a work of fiction


So is most of what's out there. It's still a good story.

Let's be bad guys.

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It's kind of interesting that after centuries of fictional history against Africans in American a fictional one of the opposite kind would arise, both claiming to be truth. It was wrong of him, but doesn't change it from being a good story.

We’re trying to pretend as if these comic books don’t exist. - David Goyer on the DCEU

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Plagiarism and fraud are the same regardless of who commits it and what the underlying motive is. Clifford Irving's fake autobio of Howard Hughes was a "good story" but that doesn't make it worth reading.

I think in fact it's patronizing in the extreme to black Americans if they have this desperate need for dishonest work to tell their story when the real story is quite capable of being told on its own.

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Plagiarism does not equal Fiction.
Stolen words can be True.

Like when Mrs. Trump plagiarised Mrs. Obama.
The words may have been Stolen, but they were True.



You Fill Me with Inertia.

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LOL! Valid point, just like Nosferatu. Still a good movie and mostly true to the novel.

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Funny how we were forced to watch this in high school but when I got to college I took an English class and this shows novel was brought up.

Professor says, "Alex Haley? Come on.....his stuff is full of more bleep than Elvis after he had a 6 week BBQ and cheese binge"

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If being liberal means you think all races are equal, then I'm a proud liberal!
Oh, and try not to use IMDB as a self-publishing tool next time. If I want to read a novel, I'll buy it from Amazon.

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nods

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