Erotic?!?
I am planning on renting this movie but I heard someone say this film eroticized rape. Opinions on that from Imdbers would be appreciated cause I don't think I want that kinda flick in my netflix queue. Cheers
shareThe rape scene shows a pretty naked Margaux Hemingway tied spread eagle on her belly to a four-poster bed with scarves. The rapest is on top of her. The scene lasts about a minute or so.
I'm sure a number of people would find it just horrifying as the character is restrained and assaulted against her will. There are others, I'm afraid, that would also find the image of the very beautiful Hemingway in a B&D/S&M type situation stimulating.
In any case, the film is rated "R" and no actual sex is shown.
My observation is that is pretty hard to make a rape scene that someone, somewhere, isn't going to find erotic. I've even read comments from people (including women!) who found the rape scene in "Irreversible" a turn on, and that scene is pretty rough to watch.
I hope this is helpful. I wouldn't worry about ordering it. Just fast-forward through the scene if you find it too offensive.
Excellent post, Zaphod!
I often wonder if some of those posts saying rape scenes are "hot" are merely to tweak the other users on these boards, or if the posters are genuinely serious. It's certainly a hot-button issue, and a response like that is bound to get attention, which is what many users here seem to crave.
On the other hand, I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with eroticizing rape scenes as long as the fantasy remains in the mind and the viewer makes the distinction that this is a fictional portrayal. We often root for the "bad guys" in films where we wouldn't in real life -- Norman Bates is an easy example.
Regardless, I found nothing erotic about the rape scene in "Lipstick," which struck me as extremely brutal when I saw this film more than 30 years ago and still does. This is a very effective portrayal of a heinous act on a minor, and the filmmaker cannot be accused of glorifying rape. If some viewers find it erotic, we can't blame "Lipstick."
I just grabbed a copy the other day and took at look to see if I remembered the scene that well. I have to admit that it was a bit longer than I thought it was. From the time he starts pushing her around till he cuts her loose is about 6 minutes, thought the time he is actually on top of her is about a minute.
Yes, it is a fairly long sequence, particularly for a rape scene.
shareThis is a very effective portrayal of a heinous act on a minor, and the filmmaker cannot be accused of glorifying rape. If some viewers find it erotic, we can't blame "Lipstick."
Are you mixing up the scenes in the movie? Mariel Hemingway was a minor when she was raped by Sarandon, but we barely saw anything of that in the movie. Margaux Hemingway was 22 and it was her rape scene in the movie that we saw fully. share
The rape scene shows a pretty naked Margaux Hemingway tied spread eagle on her belly to a four-poster bed with scarves. The rapest is on top of her. The scene lasts about a minute or so.
But you also see her battered around her apartment nearly naked for an extended period of time, which is as disturbing as the actual sexual assault.
In fact, this bothered me more, because it went on longer, and you just know there are viewers (and probably the filmmakers too, by the way the whole thing's dwelt on) who find the image of a beautiful nude woman being beat up pleasurable.
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